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AIBU to feel uncomfortable with this situation with DS dad’s gf and not sure how to deal with it?

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Plantflavours · 01/12/2018 09:39

Bit of background - my son is 11 and his dad is quite untrustworthy and shit. He always has ‘reasons’ and thinks of himself as a victim. He doesn’t prioritise our son and is exceptionally selfish a lot of the time.

He is officially supposed to see him 3 times a week but seems to consider it flexible around whatever else he has going on. My son is keen to see him and asks me to check he’s coming every time which puts me in a difficult situation. His dad has form for not letting us know he’s not coming unless I ask. I find it difficult to navigate and have tried to sort it out many times over the years but have now reached a point where I have to minimise the time I spend thinking about it and accept that he will always be shit, because nothing changes and I end up very stressed.

He has had a few girlfriends over the years who have been introduced to our son. They have mostly been long term but he introduces them quite quickly. I suspect it is so he doesn’t have to see them seperately and it is convenient for him as they often have a car and he doesn’t. He moved in with the current gf within a few weeks of moving out of the house of the previous one. They have been together for just under a year.

His dad is going through a period of making effort again at the moment - still not entirely consistent, but better than before. He has signed him up for some classes, but has now taken a job which involves working away during the week. He arranged one of the lessons during the weeknight he has him, and another on my weekend morning without asking me. It is quite typical for him to behave like this and I end up rearranging things so my son doesn’t miss out. I have gone along with it because we don’t actually have plans on that morning, and my son is really old enough to choose so I don’t want to spoil his fun.

He has started sending his girlfriend to take our son on the weeknight class. This is officially during his time. I feel a little uncomfortable with it as this is a physical class and she obviously doesn’t have parental responsibility or know my son that well. But again, he’s older and he likes her and doesn’t have a problem with it, so I’ve been ok with it. I asked that she bring him straight back, whereas his dad would normally have him for tea, and she did. She apparently asked my son to ask whether it was ok for her to take him to her moms house after the class and give him tea in future. I know that my son has been spending a lot of time with her family (his dad tends to get ‘in’ with gfs families very quickly and spend lots of time with them, work with them etc). But I’m not happy with it when he’s not there. I don’t think she has any ulterior motive, I think she thinks she is being nice but... she’s not his step parent. This girlfriend may disappear like the others have. I’m not that happy for his gf to effectively be having contact time with my son instead of his dad. However, I also feel pretty rude saying ‘you are good enough to act as chauffeur to my son but that’s it’, because I am pleased that he still gets to take the lesson.

She has just turned up to pick him up for the lesson, when I was expecting his dad. It’s the one which is in my official time. I was a bit surprised by it. I asked where his dad was and She said he’d come back from work in the early hours so is still in bed. Again, I am pleased that he is still getting to attend the lesson, but I don’t really like the situation. However, my son is older, so I’m not talking about a very young child here. He is capable of telling me if he doesn’t like it, but he doesn’t tend to speak against his dad. He seems happy to go with her instead.

What would you do in this situation? I’m not sure whether to let this continue. I can’t rely on his dad to put our son first when making decisions. I don’t have a problem with my son seeing the gf, but having her in sole charge and taking him out makes me uncomfortable. I also don’t want him to miss out and I can’t take him to the lesson myself. I’m not sure what is reasonable!

OP posts:
OMGFFS · 01/12/2018 09:42

Your ex is using his new gf to pick up his responsibilities!

I would just say that unless it’s the dad picking up DS then you won’t hand him over.

It’s DS and Ex time not DS and his gf time.

Write him an EMAIL outlining this and do not respond via non proof methods such as phone.

The gf may be all nice but she may go in a month

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 01/12/2018 09:43

Yanbu to feel uncomfortable, but I think, as the adult here, you need to swallow and hide the feeling. She sounds like a decent woman, and the more people our children have around them who love them, the better. And they have been together a year. So if there are no red flags around her, I would be welcoming to her and let her see/take my son, provided that was what my son wants.

But what I would start to do is put my foot down about my Ex messing around with contact time.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 01/12/2018 09:43

It’s good you’ve had opposing views!

Veganfortheanimals · 01/12/2018 09:47

Your son seems happy with the situation..I wouldn't create an issue unless my son was unhappy..try to get to know the gf? You might feel more reassured then.

OMGFFS · 01/12/2018 09:51

So what happens when this woman and her ex just break up like the last couple?

Her son is still going to be messed around so why not just pull the apron strings now.

Her ex is using this as a tactic and he’s being enabled.

Putting your foot down now Might result in a few tears but it will show the kid that his dad is the one at fault and not the mum who’s been rearranging everything because ex can’t grow a pair

Plantflavours · 01/12/2018 09:51

The thing with the weeknight class is that she’s not exactly having ‘time’ with him, she is literally just taking him to the lesson and back if he comes straight back home. She has obviously agreed to do this with his dad so that he doesn’t miss out now he’s working away. She was also working last week and so his grandad came instead. I think his dad is trying to make sure the lesson is still covered.

I would love contact time to not be messed around but he’s never going to change. I have gone over and over, tried many different things but it hasn’t worked. My son wants to see him so if I refused to let him go it would damage my relationship with him. He is getting older and will presumably soon be making his own plans. He has sometimes decided not to stay at his dads if a friend has offered a sleepover, for example.

His dad lives a life of complete bullshit and lies. The CMS are asking for my permission to send bailiffs to his house and take legal action against him. When I bring this up with his dad, he is convinced that they don’t contact him, he’s totally unaware and they gave him wrong advice and he’s called them to sort it out. After speaking to them, that call never happened and it’s all lies. Again. I know exactly what you mean and would give the same advice to other people, but nothing will ever change because his life is chaotic. I doubt his girlfriend knows the full story because he gives different stories to different people. If you catch him in a lie you can prove he will claim to not remember what you are talking about or not understand the meanings of the words you are using. He will never accept that he has lied and move forward so nothing changes. I have to just deal with it and protect my son as much as I can. But that stuff’s not really relevant to this!

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AmIRightOrAMeringue · 01/12/2018 09:56

I don't have any experience of this situation but I can see why you're feeling frustrated, his dad does sound shit.

I think it would be different if he was younger but I think given his age and if he wants to go to the activity then it's OK to let his dad's gf take him and look after him. I thought lots of people lift share to activities. If you had any concerns about how his gf was treating him I think you'd be able to say something but if they treat your son well and he is happy with them then I don't think you can ask that this arrangement stops

My understanding is if it went to court they wouldn't stop it

ThanksForAllTheFish · 01/12/2018 09:59

I can see your point of view but when I look at it from the outside what I see is the new girlfriend of your ex making an effort to include your DS. She obviously wants to make the new family unit work (hence wanting to take your DS to her parents for tea when your Ex is at work). She won’t know she is the latest in a line of ex’s girlfriends who have become involved with your DS only for them to leave and your DS to have to deal with that.

Is it possible to have a chat with her and explain you are cautious about your DS getting attached to her and her family only for it to all be taken away again. Or perhaps have a good chat with your son about how he feels. It sounds like he gets on well with her and she has been in his life for a year so she’s not a stranger.

Your ex sounds like a bit of a chancer but I can see why as a couple he would be encouraging DS and his girlfriend to bond if he think the relationship with be a long term thing.

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