To think this is a bit mad?

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www.gofundme.com/jamal-from-huddersfield-bullied-at-school

It's horrible what happened to this poor lad and my heart bleeds for him especially when he walks away after the incident, his little face, but he's got over £150,000, what about all the other bullied children out there?
It just doesn't seem right somehow.

Feel free to tell me IABU.

Nope YANBU.

It turns out this lad Jamal is a bully himself. Played a part in a girl being attacked badly twice leaving her being home schooled out of fear.

The media won't put that in the papers though because it's not as good of a story.

@cleojinx apparently that isn't true. The bullys brother started that story but the mum of the girl said it was three girls that had beat her up.
lots of stories going about.

It's just a mess of accusations isn't it?!

Honestly it's awful what happened to him and whatever the circumstances he shouldn't have been attacked like that. But as you say there are other children unfortunately suffering.

Still nice to see the kindness of people I suppose!

Yes even that prick ‘Tommy Robinson’ has admitted it’s a bullshit racially motivated pack of wank so stop repeating it

Op I agree it seems excessive

It turns out this lad Jamal is a bully himself. Played a part in a girl being attacked badly twice leaving her being home schooled out of fear

Not true. The girls mum has said its not true and the disgrace that Tommy Robinson is has now also retracted his claims.

Are you being unreasonable to grudge him the money? Yes. But I doubt your be concerned by that.

To be frank after reading about the lads life up to now and having seen the refugee camp he lived in in Lebanon I can only wish him and his family all the very best in life from now on in.

I think the whole thing has become a bit uncomfortable.

The fact the bullies name was going around on social media.

While i agree that bullies should be punished and that was a particalarly repulsive attack, we are not the judge and jury not should tje public ever be.

And gofund me like this are something i dont get any way, its glorified begging. Just generally, i understand crowd funding for a peoduct/company/book/building some wah to improve a business/community. Crowd fundimg an indevidal? Why would strangers want to do that?

Ajd as op said what about the other bullied children, what about the children whos parents can barely afford to feed tjem. I understand the victim is a syrian refugee but don't they get quite a lot of help?

I just find it all a bit uncomfortable

Well, if people want to donate then they will. Yes, there are lot's of bullied children but what happened to this lad has really triggered something in people. It's abhorrent. Poor lad! I can only hope that his life from now on is a good one. I'm sure he'd prefer to be back in his home country among the people he loves. But that's not going to be an option for him. He must have seen and experienced horrific things. Most bullied children won't have lived in a war zone, refugee camps or done the journey to get to this country that he must have done. It's not quite the same.

Bullying is wrong and I sympathize with anyone who's been bullied (I include myself in that category btw). This boy has seen and experienced more than his fair share of horror. He should have been safe in this country. He should not have been subjected to such horrific abuse by another child.

The money will help him build a good and positive life for himself. The money won't make all that pain and suffering disappear though, will it? Poor kid (and all the other refugees from wars zones or refugee camps around the world) deserves a good life in spite of it's harsh beginnings.

If you want to donate to bullied children, then do so. There's lots of anti-bullying charities you could donate to. No need to resent this child for getting donations that people were free to give or not as they chose.

As for the comment about the lad being a bully - I read that it was made up by Tommy Robinson - a known liar so, I don't believe it. And even if it was true, that doesn't negate the failure of the school in stopping the racially motivated, physical abuse the lad has suffered - on top of the suffering he's already experienced.

I can't believe you actually started a thread to complain about this and that another poster has repeated the disgusting lie about the boy being a bully himself, which has been widely publicised as being completely untrue. I don't feel remotely uncomfortable about people wanting to help the Syrian boy but I feel really uncomfortable reading this thread.

I don't understand who contributes to these things

It's so weird when there are proper regulated charities out there

feel really uncomfortable reading this thread

Apart from the lie which 3 other posters had already condemned, what makes you uncomfortable . Are people not allowed to have different oppinions.

I wasnt specifically talking about this case but this type of crowd funding.

Your comfortable with a childs name being broadcast over social media and hung drawn and quartered by the british public without a right to reply?

laurie exactly and i get people wanting to help

But this kind of crowd funding is not regulated how do we know this money is actally going to the kid.

In other cases how do we know we're funding what the page says we're funding

Yes thank you everyone for pointing out the lie but it would be nice if people didn't speak to me as if I said it knowing it was a lie, as if I am part of knowingly spreading untruths.

The OP told me it was untrue in her second post and I haven't argued against that since. Had I been aware that it was a lie prior to my first post, of course I wouldn't have bought it up!!

I think the thing with things such as gofundme is people seem to have this idea that they should be equal opportunities but they’re just not- if you have 2 children dying of cancer then obviously only the one with the gofundme page is going to get cash donations made. Same with bullying, why would other bullying victims get money?

Same with bullying, why would other bullying victims get money?

Because they've been bullied to!! Whats happened to jamal is disgusting and as i said in my first post partically horendous. But sadly their are cases of horendous bullying up and down the country every day. No one is rushing out to start a gofund me for them.

In fact where's the gofund me for the girl who clearly goes to the same school, or should i say used to go to the same school, and was beaten up by three girls, thats been mentioned on this thread. Where's the gofund me for jamels sister who was bullied by the same kid. Where's the gofundme for all the other kids this scum back has bullied???!!!

Ohhhhhhhhh yes that doesnt quite make as good story does it.

And i repeat how do we know this money is actually going to jamal???

Why not donate to some where like anti bullying pro or nspc anti bullyimg campaigns and make life better for all children not just the one that makes the news

But you’ve misread my post- the whole point of gofundme is the public decide who they want to donate to. It’s not equal opportunities.

It’s like me saying if you chose to donate to cancer research U.K. you’ve got to donate to all the other cancer charities too

No i haven't, your post is exactly what i dont get about this type of crowd funding. As i said why donate to the one child with cancer why donate just to jamal, why not donate to Clic sargent who will help both children with cancer, then TWO children stand a chance of living! Why not donate to Anti bullying Pro or other anti bullying campaigns then jamals sister, all the other kids this littke scumbag has bullied, the girl that is scared to go to school doesnt get bullied because hell the message gets out their that bullying is WRONG, and there would be support for kids towho are victims they would all have a decent chance of completing school.

Whats so special about the one cancer victim who has gofundme, whats so special about jamal?

Again for the 3rd time, how do we know jamal is actally going to get this money??? We don't! How do we know the kid witn cancer that has a gofundme has cancer? We don't!

Well, SadOnions, your deplorable opinion has driven me to donate and I wasn't going to. Carry on - the more you rant the more money for him.

Gofundme will put a block on the account if there are any suspicions.

What a nasty, suspicious little life you must lead.

Ok so what you don’t get is free choice to donate to whichever cause you wish to? Righyho

Ok so what you don’t get is free choice to donate to whichever cause you wish to? Righyho

Yes of course you have a free choice, OP isn't removing anyone's free choice, just starting a discussion about which choice will benefit the most vulnerable children. That's a good thing.

I understand the victim is a syrian refugee but don't they get quite a lot of help?

yes Syrian refugees are just rolling in it aren't they

I think it's just part of the psychology of charity and giving. Often we'll give in a way that is obviously less efficient in terms of helping the most people but makes us feel better because we can see exactly where it's going, who it's going to and it feels like we're having a more direct impact.

OP I think people particularly wanted to donate to Jamal, rather than anti bullying in general because he was a refugee, him and his family had already been through a terrible ordeal and had to try t fit in to a new country and to then go through bullying after finding what they thought was a safe place to live is horrendous. They want to send the message that the attitude of the bully doesn't represent the majority view in the UK.

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Ok so what you don’t get is free choice to donate to whichever cause you wish to? Righyho

Yes of course you have a free choice, OP isn't removing anyone's free choice, just starting a discussion about which choice will benefit the most vulnerable children. That's a good thing.”

It’s funny we need to have this discussion when a refugee might benefit from
Donations meanwhile, a few weeks ago the bbc paraded a young boy around my TV who had an awful sob story about losing his dad. I donated £50 to CIN. I didn’t notice much discussion about all the other thousands of children who lost a parent

Im not be moaning any ones free choice,

And for now the 4th time how do we know that jamal is going to get this money?????? Funny how no one has actally answered that.

But capri you've just proved my point, you donated to CIN, a charity that donates to lots and lots of children. Thats why theres no one having a discussion about the thosends of other children who have lost parents, because yes only one is paraded around your TV, BUT HE IS NOT THE ONLY CHILD GETTING THE MONEY. by donating to CIN rather than go fund me, you are protentially helping many many of those thosends of children. Yes they use one story but no time do that say that kid is the only kid benefiting. The presenters always say children 'like' as in children with the same sort of story also benefit from your £50.

Including syrian refegees, you want to help syrian reguees? Many of whom will have been bullied, if not all, why not help all of them. Whats so special about jamal? Oh his image has been paraded arpund social media. I'll ask again wheres his sisters gofundme. Is she not a syrian refugee thats beem bullied???? Oh but jamal can build a better life but his sister cant. Lucky jamal lucky his story got paraded all over social media oh well hos sister will just have to put up with having her hijab ripped off her and living in terriable conditions while her brother goes off and makes a better life for himself. Okkkkkkkkkkkkkk or of course we could find a charity that can provide support and welfare to them both and the thosends of others who dont have their stories paraded all over social media and there be some garentee that jamal and his sister and the tjosends of others actally might benifit from the money.

Whay i have a problem with isnt free choice. Of course fund a go fund me, if you like giving money to protential fruadsters, people who have no intention of giving the money to the cause they suggest they are. Of course thats your free choice.

Im just questioning why hes so special. Wether hes actally going to see the money and wouldnt your mobey be better used doing more good in a regulated fashion. But i guess if you want to throw money at protential criminals and single one kid out ....sure its your choice

“And for now the 4th time how do we know that jamal is going to get this money?????? Funny how no one has actally answered that.”

Because (and I’m sure you realise this) that is not a question for me or anyone else on this thread to be able to answer)

However it’s also something that donators have responsibility to be aware of when they chose to donate