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Disgusted by comments from a film director (trigger warning - ‘rape’)

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MissionItsPossible · 26/11/2018 15:50

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/last-tango-anal-sex-butter-13646205

I’ve not seen this film and after reading this article and the directors disgusting comments, I don’t want to. There was similar surrounding the actress in The Shining who was bullied and abused on set by the director. I’m sure I read she has severe mental health problems now.

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Blanchedupetitpois · 26/11/2018 15:58

YANBU, it’s repulsive.

DingDongDenny · 26/11/2018 16:05

It was sexual assualt, no doubt about it and I can't believe he maintained that he didn't regret it.

But can someone please explain what they did with the butter? Why did they need lubricant if they were simulating sex?

geekone · 26/11/2018 16:20
  1. There was an acted (as in not real) anal sex/rape scene.
  1. Actress was 100% and aware and concensual to this scene happening.
  1. In the morning of the scene prep Brando and the Director decided to pretend to use butter as a lubricant in the scene of the pretend anal rape/sex.
  1. Actress wasn’t told felt that it took the scene too far.
  1. Actress was not raped. She knew about this rape/sex scene.
  1. Possible and notable violation was that butter was smeared on actress without her knowledge that it was going to happen which is terrible and should not have been done without discussion. Without the butter all of the touching etc would still have happened.

It’s not great, it’s certainly a #metoo moment and shows what women in Hollywood put up with in those days but it wasn’t rape.

Clawdy · 26/11/2018 16:20

I remember lots of sick jokes about the butter not long after the film came out.

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 26/11/2018 16:33

Man decides how a woman feels. As per usual.

businessEthics · 26/11/2018 16:34

You've read the link you linked to very selectively.

Sowhatifidosnore · 26/11/2018 20:29

YANBU - it’s repulsive. She was 19 and the scene wasn’t in the script, Brando and the director came up with it and ‘surprised’ her to try and get a reaction from her. So even though it was simulated sex and Brando didn’t actually rape her she’s talked about how violated and scared she felt. She’s not the first young, inexperienced actress to be forced or press ganged into something by a famous director or actor and fortunately I doubt she’d be the last.

OlennasWimple · 26/11/2018 20:32

YANBU

And anyone who tries to justify it away with "she knew about it and agreed" type stuff either doesn't understand how power dynamics work or needs to think hard about themselves and why they think it's OK

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