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Girls in boys changing room- how to approach this

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BerriTerri · 25/11/2018 09:39

My 9 yr old is very aware he should not go in the girls changing/ toilets. He knows as his sister is a Rainbow and we have had a few gentle chats. since he was 7 he has changed and toileted alone when we are out.

He goes to a ballet class at a large place and he has been indignant two girls, he guesses around 7 and 9, are often in the boys changing room plus their mum. Obviously I don’t go in there myself. With the busy corridor I hadn’t noticed as I sit round the corner usually.
He reckons they go in there because it’s quiet (he’s the one of very few boys and there’s a lot of girls). Of course he may be wrong and there’s SN or other issues involved. The odd mum goes in to help a younger boy later on, but this doesn’t bother him. Girls his own age do. I can see his point as he changes from loose boxers to pants under a leotard (he generally hates pants but boxers are uncomfortable with a leotard).
I’m inclined to support him, as I’ve openly told him he can’t go in his sister’s/ mums space for years. How would you do it tactfully? Try to catch mum at the door for a quiet word? Ask the dance school? To say what, only parents? Children outside? I know younger boys may need help dressing and I don’t want to make that awkward. He doesn’t feel threatened as such by mothers/ carers in anyway, it’s a combination I guess of being a bit rule-bound, wanting fairness and already getting a bit of giggling about being a boy doing ballet and being sensitive to girls near his age giggling a lot at boys. I don’t know if they actually change in there or stay with a sibling as he bolts out when he sees them or goes into the toilet cubicle apparently. I just would like to ask gently the boys space is respected, without opening a whole can of worms that seems closed...

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Inertia · 25/11/2018 11:17

Talk to the dance school teachers- that's not acceptable.

BerriTerri · 25/11/2018 13:04

Thanks, good to bounce off people first for things like this.

Rather than email I’m going to find someone for a face to face chat next week, to ensure the tone of what I say comes across- that we are generally happy an secure in how they handle things, but they are probably unaware of this and I want to flag it. I don’t want to blow up into a safeguarding concern as such, just as a need for a chat with someone who’s not following the rules

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AlexanderHamilton · 25/11/2018 13:08

I used to run kids drama classes. Allyou need to do is day face to face to the teacher can you have a word with x & y and their mums as they keep coming into the boys changing room when Ds is getting changed and it’s very embarrassing for him.

BerriTerri · 25/11/2018 13:10

It’s a very big set up, lots of teachers, multi- buildings and lot of formalities. So not just a talk to the teacher set up, they’re very strict with chaperones to class etc and tend to take it all v v seriously. Doors have fobs to studios etc

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Underhisi · 25/11/2018 13:30

Pool changing rooms are usually no one of the other sex over the age of 7 and it seems reasonable that should apply here. Mums of small boys should be in the girls and vice versa for any dad's.
Since it is dance I would have thought anyone who can't manage that, can always arrive ready changed apart from footwear.

ISaySteadyOn · 25/11/2018 13:41

Yes, I agree with underhisi. Boys need privacy too.

rededucator · 25/11/2018 13:51

What do you mean his sister is a Rainbow? As in a Girl Guide?

dancinfeet · 25/11/2018 13:56

Depends completely on whether the changing rooms are clearly marked as boys and girls, or whether they are just changing spaces. At my dance studio we have a tiny handful of boys and lots of girls and two identical size changing rooms. Therefore these rooms are both unisex. All students must knock before entering, if the room is occupied by someone of the opposite sex, they must wait to use it but if someone of same sex then they may go ahead and enter. Works for us.

eightoclock · 25/11/2018 14:30

There should be no mums in the male changing areas. Equally dads would not be welcome where 10 year old unrelated girls are changing. Children under 7 can go in the 'wrong' changing room if they need help. Definitely complain.

homeishere · 25/11/2018 15:02

That’s unacceptable and you shouldn’t allow it to happen. Stand up for your son.

BerriTerri · 25/11/2018 22:59

Very clearly boys yes, no doubt on it

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BerriTerri · 25/11/2018 23:00

Yes a girl guide, only mentioned as he’s overheard adult discussions around their policies of gender

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Gileswithachainsaw · 25/11/2018 23:27

You should definately complain. She has no business being in there at all.

She either uses the women's with her girls or changes her kids in the car or they put their leotard on at home and wear a track suit that can be whipped off easily.

She's being incredibly selfish and disrespectful.

Dawn7 · 23/03/2019 17:01

Now I find we are all mums and don't want our kids to come to any harm that is why we bring the kids in to the locker room with us and as we are a open family seeing naked bodies is not new to them and once they were older they could go in to the male locker rooms yes they do look at people but they are learning about different bodies from young to old and my hubby has been to male locker rooms were dad has had there daughters in there and in the shower as well and nothing is said as we know that some times mum and dad can not both go swimming at the same time and I find no harm in it and when my kids ask me something I would answer them the best I could and not be shy about it

PrawnOfCreation · 23/03/2019 17:12

6 months to come up with that @Dawn7

Or posting with an agenda on a thread you've deliberately searched out, not realising it's a zombie thread, and others will see it wasn't in active and we'd know you've looked it out, rather than happening to give your opinion as a Mum on a thread you stumbled upon?

warriorprincessandwidowed · 23/03/2019 17:41

It's actually 4 months...

PrawnOfCreation · 23/03/2019 18:28

In that case I'm glad this poster dredged up an old thread to tell us about how much their family enjoys being naked in front of children...

Dawn7 · 23/03/2019 22:35

Sorry I do not know what a zombie thread is and no I did not search this out it come up in a chat with some one else on a different web site

Ledkr · 23/03/2019 22:44

Tell the principal. I had a son who took ballet and nobody else was allowed in the boys changing room.
When he was older and joined a company they were stripping off left right and centre 😂 but he was an adult then

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PregnantSea · 24/03/2019 01:56

YANBU. The parent is an adult and shouldn't be in the changing rooms with your boy. It's inappropriate. I would speak to the dance school rather than the parent. As a PP said they will know if some sort of special arrangement has been made. If it has, btw, then I would challenge this - if your DS's Dad took him into the girl's changing rooms then there would be uproar.

WyfOfBathe · 24/03/2019 02:03

I see your daughter is in Rainbow which is Assembly Of God girl group
From other words in your post, like 'soccer', I guess you're North American? 'Rainbows' in the UK has nothing to do with Assembly of God. It's the youngest section of Girl Guides, the UK version of Girl Scouts.

My oldest preteen son has been a model in a preteen art class for human drawing.
Clothed, presumably? I can't see children modelling naked being in any way acceptable in the UK.

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