Syndicate lottery win - one for the MN jury

[Puzzledandpissedoff]

Genuinely asking this on behalf of a friend who doesn't use MN - or even use computers much, come to that

She works in a place where 8 staff are in a lottery syndicate; they pay in a set amount once a month, except that one member constantly "forgets" and has only paid two or three times over the last 2 years

Of course you can guess where this is going: they've won a few tens of thousands and, predictably, the non payer expected a share, insisting he'd make up what he owed in return

The other 7 originally said "no way" but eventually voted 4/3 to give in because the atmosphere was becoming so poisonous - except it's still poisonous because the 3 who voted no are seething

It's all a bit late now since the non-payer's hardly going to return his portion, but anyway I said I'd ask the MN jury ... should they have shared with him or not?

No way!

No, the non payer broke the agreement.

I was a member of a syndicate and we had a proper contract!

Maybe if he’d been a faithful payer and forgotten that one week, but only paid a couple of times? Absolutely not.

No. If they’d not won he’d never have paid what was owed.

If they weren’t up to date with payments they don’t get anything, simple.

No way!!! I’d be seething too if I had to give him a share when he hadn’t paid to join in

Nope. Those that voted yes are mugs.

National Lottery have a syndicate agreement for just this reason. I signed one in my old job! www.national-lottery.co.uk/games/syndicates

And no, the CF shouldn't have seen a penny.

No way. Don't pay then yo h don't play.

A regular payer missing a week or two is one thing but an almost never payer not a chance. If they'd had any sense though they'd have kicked him out the syndicate a long time ago and this issue would never have arisen.

Another absolutely not. What a piss taker! The whole point of gambling is that you pay your stake not knowing if you are going to win! Not waiting till there is a win and then making a backpayment for your punts and expecting to be handed a share of the winnings!

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How much would he get if he were to take an eighth of the total? Is it a couple of grand or a life-changing amount?

No way !
Only paid a few times during the last few years they were not entitled to any money . Would make an exception if they had just missed the last payment for exceptional circumstances but otherwise NO .

No, if he didn't pay in for the week of the winning ticket, then he wasn't part of the group that won. Consequently, he is not entitled to a share.

What a piss taker! The whole point of gambling is that you pay your stake not knowing if you are going to win! Not waiting till there is a win and then making a backpayment for your punts and expecting to be handed a share of the winnings!

Exactly!

No way. I would rather have burned 'their' share.

No way! As gunpowder said, if it was someone who contributed all the time and missed it the one time it mattered, holiday/sickness etc, it would be different.

Nope. No chance.

Did he periodically catch up with payments? or was he more or less 2 years behind? If the later NO WAY

A regular payer missing a week or two is one thing

No, even then they should get nothing. The rules need to be absolutely rigid and understood in advance, it's a recipe for bad feelings if anyone's payout is altered by any grey areas. As the OP said, the lack of clarity has meant there is a problem in this case whatever they decide to do.

Nope, he would be told to get to fuck with his cheeky fuckinshness. You have to be in it to win it, it's that simple.
Put it this way, I forget this week to play the lottery and my numbers are drawn. I cannot then phone them and say look normally I put my money on these numbers, this week I didn't so how do I go about claiming my money. I would be told nicely to get to fuck.

The ones that voted he should get the cash need to give themselves a wobble. If they insist, the money is still split 7 ways and those fools can then split their share with him.

God how difficult! I’d say no but in honesty I would have cancelled their part of the syndicate a long time ago.

No, he's a cf!

I used to be in a syndicate at work, we paid in by direct debit so there was no question of forgetting! There were 12 of us and we never won more than £100 in 10 years!