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AIBU to completely cut my mother out of my life, even if she might die soon?

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 13:25

I apologise in advance that this is a LONG post... But I need to give you the full facts. Bear with me!

Bit of background first. I'm 41, live with my DP, no DC yet (hoping to adopt in next couple of years), we work FT and are really happy as a couple.

The major fly in the ointment is my mother (I can't bring myself to call her my 'D'M, for which the reason will become clear in this post). She's 62, lives alone in nice sheltered accommodation and she's been an alcoholic since 2003.

I have always had a strained relationship with her, she fell pregnant with my older DB out of wedlock, didn't have a home or a job and ended up having to give him up for adoption. I came along two years later, premature and very sick as a baby, I even had my last rites read to me by a priest as it was so touch and go. Then another two years later my younger DB arrived. Our parents split when I was about 4-5 y/o.

As long as I can remember, my mother has favoured my younger DB over me, I noticed it in part as a child. Like he would do something cheeky and mother would laugh and cuddle him, so I would invariably copy what he did and get a bollocking, I was expected to help round the house whereas he sat there like a little demi-god and didn't have to lift a finger as "he was a boy", Mother used to call him her little prince... that sort of thing. Family have since told me as an adult that they were always pulling her up on the favouritism, especially when we went to stay with our Nan in the holidays and she'd unpack our case to find DB's clothes were all brand new with tags, whereas mine where looking fit for a bin! She always denied it, but it was very obvious my family say.

This favouritism continued throughout childhood and into adulthood, my DB messed about at school, got in to trouble with the police, flitted about from one dead end job to another, got into fights, but could never do anything wrong in mother's eyes. Whereas, I worked hard at school, got decent grades, paid my own way as soon as I started working PT aged 15, bought my own house in my early 20s and paid for my wedding etc. Never asked her for anything, although acknowledgement of my achievements would have been nice.

After she'd split with our Dad, he wasn't about much in our life, he's a nice person, but selfish and feckless. Mother remarried when I was 6 and after a year or so, SD's temper started to show and he started getting violent. He and my mother would have almighty physical ding dongs where they both were violent to each other, then they started to take the violence out on me, with my SD 75% of the time and my mother the other 25% in hurting me.

I was punched, slapped, slammed into doors, thrown about from one end of the room into the opposite wall, thrown out into the garden the rain in my night dress and locked outside for answering back once. SD once grabbed me by the throat and threw me backwards off a breakfast bar stool in front of my friend for questioning him. My mum also regularly beat me with stiletto heels or a belt, my brother who was a little shit would only ever get a telling off.

Another time a local lad told my SD that I had thrown stones at him (I hadn't) and (as it turns out) SD was having an affair with the lad's mum, he came storming out of the house, screamed at me for my supposed violence to this lad and dragged me all the way back home by my hair as I was screaming in pain and humiliation.

The only time my mother would ever step in was when he was close to hospitalising me. She would say "Stop, we don't want the police or social services involved." So self-preservation, rather than preventing me further harm.

Anyway, fast forward, she left him when I was 16 because of the affair, but had a good few months of both of them refusing to leave the house and every night they were up screaming and fighting which each other. I was doing my GCSEs at the time and ended up having a nervous breakdown after finishing them and ended up on Prozac for a decade.

After I moved out in my teens, I had a ton of counselling, managed to kick the pills and reconcile my shitty childhood and useless parents. I still saw my mother, but on a fairly arm's-length basis. And I consider myself well-balanced, successful, popular and kind (and modest!!), but seriously I am proud that I have made myself a good life when it could have gone the other way so easily. My counsellour believed that my mother was actually very jealous of me.

Mother met a really nice man when I was 19 and living in London. and she and my DB moved in with him, I even moved back for a while until I met my now ex-DH.

Also, she'd been bleating on for years about how desperate she was to find her eldest long-lost DS. So I spent two years trying to find him and when I did, she made zero effort with him, effectively rejecting him all again. (He and I have a close relationship to this day).

In 2003, it all kicked off. Mother's DP decided he wanted to end their relationship, it had just run its course, no dramas, violence, or affairs, he had decided to wait until after my wedding to tell her, sadly it was the week we got back from honeymoon and WW3 kicked off. Cut a very long story short, she turned to drink, had to move in with me and my new DH, was getting drunk and abusive every night, threatening suicide and so began the years of misery where we are today.

She's even more vile a person when drunk and takes umbrage to me as I don't pander to her as much as others do and I tell her how it is. She's slowly over the years lost her friends, alienated all her family, lost her job, lost her house, lost her good looks and just become a bitter and more twisted version of herself. She was extremely lucky to get a flat in her sheltered accommodation considering her age.

Her behaviour was one of the factors contributing to my marriage breakdown and my DP after that absolutely hated her as she was so incredibly vile towards him and me.

It all came to a head about 8 years ago when younger DB met a decent woman and they decided to get married. DB decided he wanted to invite mother's second husband. Bear in mind I'd had 10 years on anti-depressants and years of counselling to get over the violence I endured as a child, my DB conveniently doesn't recall any of this, ex-SD was only ever lovely to my DB.

Anyway, his DW to be knew about the history and asked DB to put me first and uninvite the ex-SD, which DB did. My mother then calls me up screaming at me (bear in mind it's been me wiping her arse since losing her job and home and helping her out with food and money etc.) calling me every name under the sun for "making DB uninvite his DD", erm our feckless dad was coming to the wedding, ex-SD isn't his DD.

I then pointed out that I never interfered, my SIL to be had been sensitive enough to recognise he shouldn't be there. I lost my shit with her and asked how she can justify how much I was beaten as a child, she replied "All parents hit their kids." I pointed out that this wasn't true and smacking and beating were two different things, especially as I was almost hospitalised regularly. I asked her what she would do if she now saw a 16st 6ft man beating a whip thin 7 year old, she said she would step in. I said you didn't when it was me and she's replied "You were a bitch, you deserved it." I was gobsmacked and replied heartbroken, "No I wasn't, I was a child." and hung up.

Since then, both DBs have moved away and washed their hands off of her as she's getting worse and more vile with every month that passes, none of her siblings speak to her and she probably only had three friends left.

As I am her only family local for 100 miles, I was put down as Next of Kin despite keeping her very much at arm's length and this is where the phone calls started, the warden at the home calling me as mother has been unpleasant to other residents, she even pinned a dear old lady up against the wall and threatened to smash her face in for daring to knock at mother's door while she was trying to have a lie in!

I was getting calls from her all the time, self-pitying, crying, moaning abut nonsensical things, blaming everyone else for er problems and just constant "woe is me" behaviour.

Three years ago she was told she has first stages of cirrhosis, but refuses to quit drinking. She's been in hospital more times than I can count and usually discharges herself as "she's bored", "hates the staff" or simply as she can't drink in hospital.

But what has been the final nail in the coffin is this year, she's started taking to calling for an ambulance about every two weeks, for really minor things, swollen legs for example. Her legs are swollen as her liver is failing and her abdomen and legs are retaining fluid. She lives a £5 taxi from hospital but calls 999 herself or pulls the read cord in her flat and they call one and then call me every time.

When the paramedics arrive, she then refuses to go to hospital, they then spend an hour trying to persuade her, all the time they could be attending people in more need. Half the time when she does go with them, she kicks off in hospital because of the waiting and usually discharges herself, before calling the ambulance again the following week for the same thing. It's never ending and exhausting for all involved.

I finally lost my shit in June thsi year, I was at a festival and got a call from the red cord call centre and the warden, she had asked for an ambulance for her swollen legs again and when it arrived, she asked them to change a light bulb and fix her land line phone!!!!!!

She refused to talk to me when I called from the festival, kept telling me to fuck off, so I told her fried to tall her to change her Next of Kin to some other mug and to stay out of my life. Then blocked her number and on Facebook etc.

I'm ashamed to say that my life has been much nicer and less stressful last 5 months since I told her to fuck off for good. Then last week, I find out she's in hospital again, but nobody can get anything for her as my little DB doesn't ever answer his phone and is now her Next of Kin. She kept trying to contact me too, I refused to speak to her. She's since discharged herself and the warden thinks mother will be dead in next 6 months. Which is hard to hear TBH.

Mother told warden and friend she's been drinking more heavily recently, which put her back in hospital last week "Because of her daughter not talking to her", she takes no responsibility for her actions.

I have a friend who is a strict Christian and she was making me feel like I was BU last week as I wouldn't visit her or take her calls and friend says I should understand my mother has an illness. But my well-meaning friend hasn't had to endure what I have.

I said that I was living this illness with her was making me ill too, I had another mini breakdown through the stress of it all a few years back, but counselling when I was young meant I was better equipped to deal with it.

When she's in my life, she makes me miserable, it affects my work, my relationship and causes me worry. My friend said I should make amends before she dies, but it's not as easy as that.

She's a stranger to me now, I look at her photos and feel nothing for her, she's chipped away at any feelings of love I ever had slowly since I was born, which have been exasperated since she became an alcoholic. Plus she's been given six months to live countless times and keeps on dodging death somehow.

Sorry this post is an essay, truly am. But WWYD?

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mrsrupertpenryjones · 21/11/2018 19:29

My dad was an arsehole - although not to the extent you describe.

How did I feel when he was dead - bloody relieved.

I think it's easy for people who have never had an abusive parent to judge and say "aw but she's your mum" and all that bollocks. But they just can't put themselves in your shoes and understand.

If you replaced the word mum or partner with husband or wife not one person would question cutting them out.

Ignore, ingore, ignore. Only go to the funeral if they will let you turn the fire on.

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signandsingcarols · 21/11/2018 19:41

Just wanted to OP you sound amazing for someone who has experienced what you have. Please don't worry about MH and adoption, the assessment process, (a huge report called Form F) is very detailed and the SW will need to discuss all health issues MH and otherwise, but the focus will be on how you are now, and how you are going to carry on. They will ask lots of questions about your childhood and upbringing, but it is focused on how it has shaped you and how you are likely to parent, beause you are able to show you have taken time to look at these issues and worked through what happened to you and are making healthy responses that protect you and any child you had it should be looked at favourably. Hope that reassures

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 19:43

@AudaciousCockerel thank you for the dedication by RTFT! I'm genuinely touched by this and by the fact that not one person has said IABU. Flowers

Aww, I'd be your friend, you sound kind. Flowers

Funnily enough, I went away with two girl friends at the weekend. I have known them since we were three teenage penpals (we have stayed mates 25+ years, been on holiday together and stayed at each others houses, our DPs all get on too), anyway I'm the loudest of the three by a country mile, the other two friends are quiet / shy when you first meet them but when you warm them up you get their dirty and dry sense of humour and utter daftness!

Anyway, on Sunday, after a night of awesome live music we were reminiscing on our enduring friendship (which usually revolves around gigs!) and one of them said, "I think everyone should have a (my name) as a friend in their life. You always lift me up!"

I swear to god. I almost cried. This is a friend I only get to see twice a year at most, I was so overwhelmed, as I know I'm a bit Marmite as I'm quite loud and silly. I'd even go so far to say I can can be annoying, as I'm really glass half full, OTT, smiley, upbeat and energetic! Think... Mr Motivator, but paler with less Spandex and female. GrinGrin

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 19:45

@mrsrupertpenryjones so sorry for what you've been through.

@signandsingcarols Thanks for the reassurance. I felt reborn in my 30s. Like it was another life I'd lived before, so I hope that will show to the SWs.

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AudaciousCockerel · 21/11/2018 19:48

See, you’re obviously a good friend to these women, and they value you. Take a look around you and see who you have in your life that you value and value you, and I bet there are loads of people that enjoy your company.

I think when you’ve had a bad childhood it can send you one of two ways - either you become a total dick or you work really hard not to be one!

I think you sound fab, and you mustn’t let other people dictate how you live your life. Live it for you, how you want to.

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Disabrie22 · 21/11/2018 19:52

OP you only get one life - don’t waste anymore of yours on your mother - she has made awful decisions and is completely responsible for the breakdown of your relationship - not you!! Her life is not your fault.
Wishing you so much deserved happiness OP - you have achieved so much and you need to be proud of that and aim for a life free of this woman.

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Excited101 · 21/11/2018 19:56

YANBU

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Maelstrop · 21/11/2018 19:58

I do not know how you've tolerated her for so long. Stay NC is my only advice.

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 21/11/2018 20:02

I think any of the paragraphs in your opening post would be sufficient to cut her off. You owe her nothing. You need to focus on yourself and not being sucked in to her madness so that your life is stable enough for you to adopt.

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bookworm14 · 21/11/2018 20:05

You have nothing to feel guilty about. Her violence towards you alone would be enough to merit having nothing more to do with her.

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ohfourfoxache · 21/11/2018 20:13

I don’t think I’ve ever read a thread where I wish you more complete peace and happiness, Cycle.

To have come through what you have and to STILL have so much time and energy and kindness for others? That’s a rare thing.

Don’t feel guilty for a moment about going no contact. Remove this last fly in the ointment and grab your happy ever after with all your might x

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anunseemlylovefordustin · 21/11/2018 20:14

Don't look back, OP. You deserve better than you have received. I went NC with my abusive bio father about 15 years ago, and it is the best thing I ever did.

I am a very empathetic and compassionate person, and very easily moved. I say this because someone said something to me last week that I think means he may have died now, and the fact that I feel NOTHING about that (apart from a vague sadness at his wasted life, estranged from all of his children), tells me that I absolutely made the right decision.

You have made the right decision too: stick to it. As I saw on FB the other day: You don't have to set yourself on fire to keep anyone else warm.

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TaliZorahVasNormandy · 21/11/2018 20:14

You reap what you sow. So fuck her.

Dont let this awful woman your chances of adopting. You'd be given children a fantastic childhood. Any child who had someone like you as a mother would be a very lucky child.

She birthed you but she watched you be harmed. You owe her nothing.

See her if you want but only if you want to. Dont do it out of some weird sense of obligation.

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AJPTaylor · 21/11/2018 21:17

You can't know ahead of time.
When my grandmother died ( not a fraction of what your mother did) I felt relief and then elation then freedom.
The impact you will have on her final months will be marginal. Do not put yourself through it.
Your friend may be well meaning but misguided. Decide right this minute to celebrate sticking up for yourself and ending your relationship in this way

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Mummaloves · 21/11/2018 21:35

I don’t think YABU, your Mother is a narcissist, I’m the same age as you and I’ve come to realise mine is too and have been NC for 5 months now. I can honestly say I am less stressed and not constantly worrying about whether she will approve of what I’m doing or pandering to her demands. And not worrying about her kicking off every time things don’t go her way.

Considering your childhood you sound like a lovely grounded person and I think for your sake you need to stick it out and be conoektely NC. She may me yoir mother but she hasn’t been a mum/parent to you.

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Mummaloves · 21/11/2018 21:35

*completely

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 21/11/2018 21:49

Wow OP
What a survivor you are
Fucking hell

Yanbu . Let her be . Clearly a very damaged person isn’t she ? I hope she passes soon as her life sounds like hell . At some deep deep level she knows she fucked up .

Do what feels right for you Flowers

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Sunhill4 · 21/11/2018 22:00

My mother has done far less than yours and I cut her out of my life about 7 years ago now. You have to do what is right for you. Definitely do not feel guilty or that you owe this woman anything. Blood is not thicker than water, that's a load of crap. Life is too short to waste it on people who don't deserve it. HOWEVER, you mustn't beat yourself up over something happening to her now. You need to make sure you will be ok with yourself when she dies. The only regret I will have with my mother passing is the fact I never told her how she made me feel my whole life and why I stopped giving her the time of day. She probably is too self centred to have any idea!

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Sewrainbow · 21/11/2018 22:23

Only read op, but is have nothing more to do with her and block the wardens number from your phone. You shouldn't have to hear about how she is behaving, you aren't responsible for her behaviour, your brothers aren't dealing with it, why should you?

Take the to work through how you feel but she won't change so don't put yourself through it anymore xx

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Labradoodliedoodoo · 21/11/2018 22:45

Look your Christian friend can be her next of kin and support her if she feels that strongly. She’s never walked a mile in your shoes so how dare she judge your feelings and actions.

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Labradoodliedoodoo · 21/11/2018 22:46

If you want to make peace with your mum write her a letter.

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SlippedMyIdiom · 21/11/2018 23:56

I only read your question because you don't have to justify yourself. The answer is no.
So long as it is what is best for you then do it.

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Thecurtainsofdestiny · 21/11/2018 23:59

I disagree with your "strict Christian friend" (and I am also Christian).

You have already gone above and beyond for your mother. From what you have said it is she, not you, who needs to make amends.

Keep yourself safe and well, OPFlowers

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heyjude12 · 22/11/2018 00:12

Op you have grown to be a amazing kind an empathetic woman in spite of your mother. Well done. Its not an easy path to tread I know.
I'm so glad that the partners you have had have valued you.
Your mum helped to destroy your childhood and your marriage. Step away go nc and have a wonderful life Flowers

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MaluCachu · 22/11/2018 00:23

This resonates so much with me.My mother was almost as toxic,was a BIG drinker,the level of neglect and abuse was horrific.She used to punch me in the face and stub her cigarettes out on me SadI’m not sure how I felt when she passed away in my arms a few years ago.I guess all the ‘why’s’ go with them along with the answers.It is a mind fuck and I totally get it Flowers for you.

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