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AIBU to completely cut my mother out of my life, even if she might die soon?

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 13:25

I apologise in advance that this is a LONG post... But I need to give you the full facts. Bear with me!

Bit of background first. I'm 41, live with my DP, no DC yet (hoping to adopt in next couple of years), we work FT and are really happy as a couple.

The major fly in the ointment is my mother (I can't bring myself to call her my 'D'M, for which the reason will become clear in this post). She's 62, lives alone in nice sheltered accommodation and she's been an alcoholic since 2003.

I have always had a strained relationship with her, she fell pregnant with my older DB out of wedlock, didn't have a home or a job and ended up having to give him up for adoption. I came along two years later, premature and very sick as a baby, I even had my last rites read to me by a priest as it was so touch and go. Then another two years later my younger DB arrived. Our parents split when I was about 4-5 y/o.

As long as I can remember, my mother has favoured my younger DB over me, I noticed it in part as a child. Like he would do something cheeky and mother would laugh and cuddle him, so I would invariably copy what he did and get a bollocking, I was expected to help round the house whereas he sat there like a little demi-god and didn't have to lift a finger as "he was a boy", Mother used to call him her little prince... that sort of thing. Family have since told me as an adult that they were always pulling her up on the favouritism, especially when we went to stay with our Nan in the holidays and she'd unpack our case to find DB's clothes were all brand new with tags, whereas mine where looking fit for a bin! She always denied it, but it was very obvious my family say.

This favouritism continued throughout childhood and into adulthood, my DB messed about at school, got in to trouble with the police, flitted about from one dead end job to another, got into fights, but could never do anything wrong in mother's eyes. Whereas, I worked hard at school, got decent grades, paid my own way as soon as I started working PT aged 15, bought my own house in my early 20s and paid for my wedding etc. Never asked her for anything, although acknowledgement of my achievements would have been nice.

After she'd split with our Dad, he wasn't about much in our life, he's a nice person, but selfish and feckless. Mother remarried when I was 6 and after a year or so, SD's temper started to show and he started getting violent. He and my mother would have almighty physical ding dongs where they both were violent to each other, then they started to take the violence out on me, with my SD 75% of the time and my mother the other 25% in hurting me.

I was punched, slapped, slammed into doors, thrown about from one end of the room into the opposite wall, thrown out into the garden the rain in my night dress and locked outside for answering back once. SD once grabbed me by the throat and threw me backwards off a breakfast bar stool in front of my friend for questioning him. My mum also regularly beat me with stiletto heels or a belt, my brother who was a little shit would only ever get a telling off.

Another time a local lad told my SD that I had thrown stones at him (I hadn't) and (as it turns out) SD was having an affair with the lad's mum, he came storming out of the house, screamed at me for my supposed violence to this lad and dragged me all the way back home by my hair as I was screaming in pain and humiliation.

The only time my mother would ever step in was when he was close to hospitalising me. She would say "Stop, we don't want the police or social services involved." So self-preservation, rather than preventing me further harm.

Anyway, fast forward, she left him when I was 16 because of the affair, but had a good few months of both of them refusing to leave the house and every night they were up screaming and fighting which each other. I was doing my GCSEs at the time and ended up having a nervous breakdown after finishing them and ended up on Prozac for a decade.

After I moved out in my teens, I had a ton of counselling, managed to kick the pills and reconcile my shitty childhood and useless parents. I still saw my mother, but on a fairly arm's-length basis. And I consider myself well-balanced, successful, popular and kind (and modest!!), but seriously I am proud that I have made myself a good life when it could have gone the other way so easily. My counsellour believed that my mother was actually very jealous of me.

Mother met a really nice man when I was 19 and living in London. and she and my DB moved in with him, I even moved back for a while until I met my now ex-DH.

Also, she'd been bleating on for years about how desperate she was to find her eldest long-lost DS. So I spent two years trying to find him and when I did, she made zero effort with him, effectively rejecting him all again. (He and I have a close relationship to this day).

In 2003, it all kicked off. Mother's DP decided he wanted to end their relationship, it had just run its course, no dramas, violence, or affairs, he had decided to wait until after my wedding to tell her, sadly it was the week we got back from honeymoon and WW3 kicked off. Cut a very long story short, she turned to drink, had to move in with me and my new DH, was getting drunk and abusive every night, threatening suicide and so began the years of misery where we are today.

She's even more vile a person when drunk and takes umbrage to me as I don't pander to her as much as others do and I tell her how it is. She's slowly over the years lost her friends, alienated all her family, lost her job, lost her house, lost her good looks and just become a bitter and more twisted version of herself. She was extremely lucky to get a flat in her sheltered accommodation considering her age.

Her behaviour was one of the factors contributing to my marriage breakdown and my DP after that absolutely hated her as she was so incredibly vile towards him and me.

It all came to a head about 8 years ago when younger DB met a decent woman and they decided to get married. DB decided he wanted to invite mother's second husband. Bear in mind I'd had 10 years on anti-depressants and years of counselling to get over the violence I endured as a child, my DB conveniently doesn't recall any of this, ex-SD was only ever lovely to my DB.

Anyway, his DW to be knew about the history and asked DB to put me first and uninvite the ex-SD, which DB did. My mother then calls me up screaming at me (bear in mind it's been me wiping her arse since losing her job and home and helping her out with food and money etc.) calling me every name under the sun for "making DB uninvite his DD", erm our feckless dad was coming to the wedding, ex-SD isn't his DD.

I then pointed out that I never interfered, my SIL to be had been sensitive enough to recognise he shouldn't be there. I lost my shit with her and asked how she can justify how much I was beaten as a child, she replied "All parents hit their kids." I pointed out that this wasn't true and smacking and beating were two different things, especially as I was almost hospitalised regularly. I asked her what she would do if she now saw a 16st 6ft man beating a whip thin 7 year old, she said she would step in. I said you didn't when it was me and she's replied "You were a bitch, you deserved it." I was gobsmacked and replied heartbroken, "No I wasn't, I was a child." and hung up.

Since then, both DBs have moved away and washed their hands off of her as she's getting worse and more vile with every month that passes, none of her siblings speak to her and she probably only had three friends left.

As I am her only family local for 100 miles, I was put down as Next of Kin despite keeping her very much at arm's length and this is where the phone calls started, the warden at the home calling me as mother has been unpleasant to other residents, she even pinned a dear old lady up against the wall and threatened to smash her face in for daring to knock at mother's door while she was trying to have a lie in!

I was getting calls from her all the time, self-pitying, crying, moaning abut nonsensical things, blaming everyone else for er problems and just constant "woe is me" behaviour.

Three years ago she was told she has first stages of cirrhosis, but refuses to quit drinking. She's been in hospital more times than I can count and usually discharges herself as "she's bored", "hates the staff" or simply as she can't drink in hospital.

But what has been the final nail in the coffin is this year, she's started taking to calling for an ambulance about every two weeks, for really minor things, swollen legs for example. Her legs are swollen as her liver is failing and her abdomen and legs are retaining fluid. She lives a £5 taxi from hospital but calls 999 herself or pulls the read cord in her flat and they call one and then call me every time.

When the paramedics arrive, she then refuses to go to hospital, they then spend an hour trying to persuade her, all the time they could be attending people in more need. Half the time when she does go with them, she kicks off in hospital because of the waiting and usually discharges herself, before calling the ambulance again the following week for the same thing. It's never ending and exhausting for all involved.

I finally lost my shit in June thsi year, I was at a festival and got a call from the red cord call centre and the warden, she had asked for an ambulance for her swollen legs again and when it arrived, she asked them to change a light bulb and fix her land line phone!!!!!!

She refused to talk to me when I called from the festival, kept telling me to fuck off, so I told her fried to tall her to change her Next of Kin to some other mug and to stay out of my life. Then blocked her number and on Facebook etc.

I'm ashamed to say that my life has been much nicer and less stressful last 5 months since I told her to fuck off for good. Then last week, I find out she's in hospital again, but nobody can get anything for her as my little DB doesn't ever answer his phone and is now her Next of Kin. She kept trying to contact me too, I refused to speak to her. She's since discharged herself and the warden thinks mother will be dead in next 6 months. Which is hard to hear TBH.

Mother told warden and friend she's been drinking more heavily recently, which put her back in hospital last week "Because of her daughter not talking to her", she takes no responsibility for her actions.

I have a friend who is a strict Christian and she was making me feel like I was BU last week as I wouldn't visit her or take her calls and friend says I should understand my mother has an illness. But my well-meaning friend hasn't had to endure what I have.

I said that I was living this illness with her was making me ill too, I had another mini breakdown through the stress of it all a few years back, but counselling when I was young meant I was better equipped to deal with it.

When she's in my life, she makes me miserable, it affects my work, my relationship and causes me worry. My friend said I should make amends before she dies, but it's not as easy as that.

She's a stranger to me now, I look at her photos and feel nothing for her, she's chipped away at any feelings of love I ever had slowly since I was born, which have been exasperated since she became an alcoholic. Plus she's been given six months to live countless times and keeps on dodging death somehow.

Sorry this post is an essay, truly am. But WWYD?

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PeevedOfPortishead · 21/11/2018 17:47

She'd also use it to punish you. Again.

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BinglyBunglyBoops · 21/11/2018 17:48

Why would the OP regret not making her peace? She owes her nothing!

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FishesThatFly · 21/11/2018 17:50

My friend asks how I will feel getting that call to say Mother is dead and I haven't spoken to her for months. Truth is, I have no idea how I will feel

You probably would have felt absolutely fine until your self-rightous friend opened her mouth and made you feel guilty Angry

If she's so concerned maybe she should do her good Christian duty and be her NOK.

Bloody do gooders get on my nerves

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VictoriaBun · 21/11/2018 17:52

Yes , no-one would berate you for not getting back in contact with her. From what you say about her- she does not deserve the title of being called your mother. Keep that door firmly closed and have no regret about what might be around the corner for her. Sending you Flowers

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DexyMidnight · 21/11/2018 17:52

It doesn't sound horrible at all OP! She's been awful to you.

I agree OP owes her mother nothing. I acknowledged that in my post.
But I think it is simply human nature, when faced with bereavement, to contemplate what might have been, and for the finality of a death to weigh heavily with people.

I hazard a guess that the OP could maybe feel regret at never having said goodbye to her mother, whereas I hazard a guess that OP would not regret extending the (albeit artificial) olive branch and saying her goodbyes.

That is why I am suggesting that she might want to visit her a final time and break away peacefully (if I read OP's post correctly I think the last time she spoke to her mum it was in anger).

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DexyMidnight · 21/11/2018 17:55

OP i hope it is clear that I'm only suggesting saying goodbye and wishing her well because I think it might be in your interests to do so (i.e. it might help you move on and close the door on all this pain) not because she deserves anything from you.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:57

@DexyMidnight You are spot on, the last time we spoke was with her telling me to fuck off and me calling back and telling her friend to pass on that I want nothing more to do with her and to find another NoK!

I hear what you're saying, but I know of I went to see her to draw a line under it, she'd start emotionally blackmailing me / Getting under my skin and pulling all her usual tricks.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:58

@DexyMidnight I do understand. Don't worry.

I'm sensitive and a worrier, I just don't want her to think I want a relationship again, as I don't.

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HisBetterHalf · 21/11/2018 18:05

She is toxic. I would cut all contact if that were me. You should be proud of all you achieved from such an awful childhood. I wish you the very best of luck whatever you decide but she doesnt deserve anything from you just because she gave birth to you. It doesnt sound like she has been motherly at all

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bringbacksideburns · 21/11/2018 18:18

No walk away. She's hideous.

Tell anyone who asks that they need to contact the little Prince brother she doted on whilst neglecting you. She's his responsibility now.

Seriously you couldn't have done anymore. Stop confiding in your Christian friend. She's not helping. She wasn't beaten up as a child.

Time to finally put yourself first and be selfish.

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frogbike · 21/11/2018 18:23

I’m from an abusive background also with golden child sister. I cut my sister off a few years ago and after realising how much better life was without her, she was always bragging about how well she’s done compared to me, she has many many more opportunities handed to her than me but she didn’t seem to see that, I’ve recently cut my mum off after she told me she was going to leave everything to my sister when she dies.

I had counselling and that really really helped me realise how much shit I’d already put up with. I can honestly feel like it’s a weight off my shoulders. Family is just a word. It only has a true meaning when you know these people are actually there for you and care about you. When they don’t they are just other people in your life that you can choose to get rid of if you feel that’s best.

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RosieStarr · 21/11/2018 18:30

Oh wow, I read that and it smacks of my mother too (she doesn’t drink like that but same behaviour). If you’re happier without her, then that’s all that matters.

Your mother is an adult and is responsible for her own behaviour, you are not responsible for picking up the pieces and nobody should hold you responsible. You need to put yourself first, something you have clearly deserved for a long time.

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UnknownStuntman · 21/11/2018 18:39

Don't ever tell anything to someone particularly religious. You'll find your friendship is much less important to them than their imaginary friend is.

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acatcalledjohn · 21/11/2018 18:39

I've just started to RTFT, but this stood out to me:

I asked her what she would do if she now saw a 16st 6ft man beating a whip thin 7 year old, she said she would step in. I said you didn't when it was me and she's replied "You were a bitch, you deserved it." I was gobsmacked and replied heartbroken, "No I wasn't, I was a child." and hung up.

I am beyond shocked reading that, I cannot imagine a parent ever saying something that vile to justify their abusive behaviour to a child.

Don't be surprised if you feel an immense relief when you get the message she has died. After all, going NC has made you feel better. No wonder, really, given your OP.

There is nothing remotely unreasonable about your feelings.

Thanks

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 18:47

@acatcalledjohn It's the most hurtful thing she's ever said to me. And she's said a lot. She was in a period of drinking when she said this, but that's no excuse.

My ex DP heard her say it, as I had her on loud speaker and I came off the call, going, "See? See what she's like? Hear that? I told you it was all true!"

Ex DP said he didn't need to hear it to believe me, he believed me already. He was totally disgusted with her.

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AriadnePersephoneCloud · 21/11/2018 18:49

Honestly I'd be NC and not even attend the funeral much less pay for it. She sounds purely toxic. Don't feel guilty at all, she's poisonous.

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BumbleyBum · 21/11/2018 18:50

Your mother is an utter bitch.
Cut all contact and don’t you dare feel guilty about it either.
My mum is also an alcoholic, a vile one at that too.

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acatcalledjohn · 21/11/2018 18:51

I've just finished RTFT.

Fucking hell 

You sound bloody amazing and a wonderful friend to have, your birthday drinks sound like a lot of fun!

And all of that despite the shit you went through.

Hats off to you @GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery, hats off indeed.

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fikel · 21/11/2018 18:53

You’re an incredible strong amazing woman, you have tried so hard to make things work with your Mum, although she didn’t deserve it!! Move on and be happy without looking back 💕

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Iizzyb · 21/11/2018 18:59

Oh lovely what a hard time you've had. You totally deserve a life of your own. Nobody should have to live like this.

Stay NC and look after yourself and dp. Put you two first. I hope your adoption plans work out Thanks

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 19:07

No, you are all amazing. I'm fairly new to MN and joined originally for adoption guidance etc. But you've all made me feel ten feet tall today. I'm truly grateful.

Safe to say that if I'm lucky enough to become a mum, my child will have the most loving life, without fear or insecurity.

Do you know what? My first bout of counselling helped me stop self-harming, helped me begin to trust men and made me realise that if I continued on the downward spiral, my ex-SD would have won (I blamed the majority of my MH issues on him, and conveniently played down in my mind, the abuse from my mother) and the only way I could stick two fingers up at him was to be successful and happy.

Ex-SD sent me a friend request about 8 years ago on FB (WTF?) and started commenting on posts / photos I was in with my younger DB, I ended up telling him publicly on a post what I thought of him and told him where to go. Not the best way I admit, but I saw red. The post didn't get deleted by my DB and he left me alone after that. Still to this day have no idea what he was trying to achieve.

"Oh, yeah, sure, you nearly put me in hospital, broke my spirit, caused me to have a nervous breakdown, self harm, harbour a fear of men and self loathing, but of course I'd love to exchange Facebook pleasantries!!! Oh do fuck off, you violent and vile twat."

Anyhoo, I used this mantra when my mum's alcoholism magnified her part in my abuse. I carried on making a life for myself, flipping the proverbial bird as I went along... Smiling.

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cavycavy · 21/11/2018 19:15

OP you are a bloody fantastic example of a human.

Pure grit.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 19:18

@cavycavy thank you.

What's the saying? Don't let the bastards drag you down? Grin

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 19:22

Oh and I forgot to mention that before my mum's alcoholism, through counselling I did approach the police to report the abuse from my ex SD as he was semi-retired and driving a school kid's mini bus. (Seriously!)

The police were sooooo lovely and genuinely believed me, but said that as my younger DB and my mother wouldn't corroborate my report, it would just be my word against his and would never pass the CPS.

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AudaciousCockerel · 21/11/2018 19:23

I read the whole first post and I have to say that I think you sound like a remarkably strong, grounded and kind person.

You have done enough and more than enough for this woman. Unfortunately we cannot choose our family, and we are sometimes unlucky enough to be born to some utter shits of human beings.

Please, please don’t feel guilty about doing what’s right for you. Don’t let someone else’s religion dictate what you do with your life. If she’s so bothered she can help your mum. If your immortal soul is a concern then it’s YOUR concern, and not hers. Although I have to say I think it’s rubbish anyway, and not very Christian of her to make you feel bad.

I think you sound so lovely and I would love someone like you as a friend.

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