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AIBU to completely cut my mother out of my life, even if she might die soon?

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 13:25

I apologise in advance that this is a LONG post... But I need to give you the full facts. Bear with me!

Bit of background first. I'm 41, live with my DP, no DC yet (hoping to adopt in next couple of years), we work FT and are really happy as a couple.

The major fly in the ointment is my mother (I can't bring myself to call her my 'D'M, for which the reason will become clear in this post). She's 62, lives alone in nice sheltered accommodation and she's been an alcoholic since 2003.

I have always had a strained relationship with her, she fell pregnant with my older DB out of wedlock, didn't have a home or a job and ended up having to give him up for adoption. I came along two years later, premature and very sick as a baby, I even had my last rites read to me by a priest as it was so touch and go. Then another two years later my younger DB arrived. Our parents split when I was about 4-5 y/o.

As long as I can remember, my mother has favoured my younger DB over me, I noticed it in part as a child. Like he would do something cheeky and mother would laugh and cuddle him, so I would invariably copy what he did and get a bollocking, I was expected to help round the house whereas he sat there like a little demi-god and didn't have to lift a finger as "he was a boy", Mother used to call him her little prince... that sort of thing. Family have since told me as an adult that they were always pulling her up on the favouritism, especially when we went to stay with our Nan in the holidays and she'd unpack our case to find DB's clothes were all brand new with tags, whereas mine where looking fit for a bin! She always denied it, but it was very obvious my family say.

This favouritism continued throughout childhood and into adulthood, my DB messed about at school, got in to trouble with the police, flitted about from one dead end job to another, got into fights, but could never do anything wrong in mother's eyes. Whereas, I worked hard at school, got decent grades, paid my own way as soon as I started working PT aged 15, bought my own house in my early 20s and paid for my wedding etc. Never asked her for anything, although acknowledgement of my achievements would have been nice.

After she'd split with our Dad, he wasn't about much in our life, he's a nice person, but selfish and feckless. Mother remarried when I was 6 and after a year or so, SD's temper started to show and he started getting violent. He and my mother would have almighty physical ding dongs where they both were violent to each other, then they started to take the violence out on me, with my SD 75% of the time and my mother the other 25% in hurting me.

I was punched, slapped, slammed into doors, thrown about from one end of the room into the opposite wall, thrown out into the garden the rain in my night dress and locked outside for answering back once. SD once grabbed me by the throat and threw me backwards off a breakfast bar stool in front of my friend for questioning him. My mum also regularly beat me with stiletto heels or a belt, my brother who was a little shit would only ever get a telling off.

Another time a local lad told my SD that I had thrown stones at him (I hadn't) and (as it turns out) SD was having an affair with the lad's mum, he came storming out of the house, screamed at me for my supposed violence to this lad and dragged me all the way back home by my hair as I was screaming in pain and humiliation.

The only time my mother would ever step in was when he was close to hospitalising me. She would say "Stop, we don't want the police or social services involved." So self-preservation, rather than preventing me further harm.

Anyway, fast forward, she left him when I was 16 because of the affair, but had a good few months of both of them refusing to leave the house and every night they were up screaming and fighting which each other. I was doing my GCSEs at the time and ended up having a nervous breakdown after finishing them and ended up on Prozac for a decade.

After I moved out in my teens, I had a ton of counselling, managed to kick the pills and reconcile my shitty childhood and useless parents. I still saw my mother, but on a fairly arm's-length basis. And I consider myself well-balanced, successful, popular and kind (and modest!!), but seriously I am proud that I have made myself a good life when it could have gone the other way so easily. My counsellour believed that my mother was actually very jealous of me.

Mother met a really nice man when I was 19 and living in London. and she and my DB moved in with him, I even moved back for a while until I met my now ex-DH.

Also, she'd been bleating on for years about how desperate she was to find her eldest long-lost DS. So I spent two years trying to find him and when I did, she made zero effort with him, effectively rejecting him all again. (He and I have a close relationship to this day).

In 2003, it all kicked off. Mother's DP decided he wanted to end their relationship, it had just run its course, no dramas, violence, or affairs, he had decided to wait until after my wedding to tell her, sadly it was the week we got back from honeymoon and WW3 kicked off. Cut a very long story short, she turned to drink, had to move in with me and my new DH, was getting drunk and abusive every night, threatening suicide and so began the years of misery where we are today.

She's even more vile a person when drunk and takes umbrage to me as I don't pander to her as much as others do and I tell her how it is. She's slowly over the years lost her friends, alienated all her family, lost her job, lost her house, lost her good looks and just become a bitter and more twisted version of herself. She was extremely lucky to get a flat in her sheltered accommodation considering her age.

Her behaviour was one of the factors contributing to my marriage breakdown and my DP after that absolutely hated her as she was so incredibly vile towards him and me.

It all came to a head about 8 years ago when younger DB met a decent woman and they decided to get married. DB decided he wanted to invite mother's second husband. Bear in mind I'd had 10 years on anti-depressants and years of counselling to get over the violence I endured as a child, my DB conveniently doesn't recall any of this, ex-SD was only ever lovely to my DB.

Anyway, his DW to be knew about the history and asked DB to put me first and uninvite the ex-SD, which DB did. My mother then calls me up screaming at me (bear in mind it's been me wiping her arse since losing her job and home and helping her out with food and money etc.) calling me every name under the sun for "making DB uninvite his DD", erm our feckless dad was coming to the wedding, ex-SD isn't his DD.

I then pointed out that I never interfered, my SIL to be had been sensitive enough to recognise he shouldn't be there. I lost my shit with her and asked how she can justify how much I was beaten as a child, she replied "All parents hit their kids." I pointed out that this wasn't true and smacking and beating were two different things, especially as I was almost hospitalised regularly. I asked her what she would do if she now saw a 16st 6ft man beating a whip thin 7 year old, she said she would step in. I said you didn't when it was me and she's replied "You were a bitch, you deserved it." I was gobsmacked and replied heartbroken, "No I wasn't, I was a child." and hung up.

Since then, both DBs have moved away and washed their hands off of her as she's getting worse and more vile with every month that passes, none of her siblings speak to her and she probably only had three friends left.

As I am her only family local for 100 miles, I was put down as Next of Kin despite keeping her very much at arm's length and this is where the phone calls started, the warden at the home calling me as mother has been unpleasant to other residents, she even pinned a dear old lady up against the wall and threatened to smash her face in for daring to knock at mother's door while she was trying to have a lie in!

I was getting calls from her all the time, self-pitying, crying, moaning abut nonsensical things, blaming everyone else for er problems and just constant "woe is me" behaviour.

Three years ago she was told she has first stages of cirrhosis, but refuses to quit drinking. She's been in hospital more times than I can count and usually discharges herself as "she's bored", "hates the staff" or simply as she can't drink in hospital.

But what has been the final nail in the coffin is this year, she's started taking to calling for an ambulance about every two weeks, for really minor things, swollen legs for example. Her legs are swollen as her liver is failing and her abdomen and legs are retaining fluid. She lives a £5 taxi from hospital but calls 999 herself or pulls the read cord in her flat and they call one and then call me every time.

When the paramedics arrive, she then refuses to go to hospital, they then spend an hour trying to persuade her, all the time they could be attending people in more need. Half the time when she does go with them, she kicks off in hospital because of the waiting and usually discharges herself, before calling the ambulance again the following week for the same thing. It's never ending and exhausting for all involved.

I finally lost my shit in June thsi year, I was at a festival and got a call from the red cord call centre and the warden, she had asked for an ambulance for her swollen legs again and when it arrived, she asked them to change a light bulb and fix her land line phone!!!!!!

She refused to talk to me when I called from the festival, kept telling me to fuck off, so I told her fried to tall her to change her Next of Kin to some other mug and to stay out of my life. Then blocked her number and on Facebook etc.

I'm ashamed to say that my life has been much nicer and less stressful last 5 months since I told her to fuck off for good. Then last week, I find out she's in hospital again, but nobody can get anything for her as my little DB doesn't ever answer his phone and is now her Next of Kin. She kept trying to contact me too, I refused to speak to her. She's since discharged herself and the warden thinks mother will be dead in next 6 months. Which is hard to hear TBH.

Mother told warden and friend she's been drinking more heavily recently, which put her back in hospital last week "Because of her daughter not talking to her", she takes no responsibility for her actions.

I have a friend who is a strict Christian and she was making me feel like I was BU last week as I wouldn't visit her or take her calls and friend says I should understand my mother has an illness. But my well-meaning friend hasn't had to endure what I have.

I said that I was living this illness with her was making me ill too, I had another mini breakdown through the stress of it all a few years back, but counselling when I was young meant I was better equipped to deal with it.

When she's in my life, she makes me miserable, it affects my work, my relationship and causes me worry. My friend said I should make amends before she dies, but it's not as easy as that.

She's a stranger to me now, I look at her photos and feel nothing for her, she's chipped away at any feelings of love I ever had slowly since I was born, which have been exasperated since she became an alcoholic. Plus she's been given six months to live countless times and keeps on dodging death somehow.

Sorry this post is an essay, truly am. But WWYD?

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 13:57

@WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit Wow, that sure hit a nerve with me. Fuck. You ain't wrong.

@CaliHummers Sorry that you have to endure this, it's truly horrid to watch them throw their life away so slowly and painfully.

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cheesefield · 21/11/2018 13:58

My friend asks how I will feel getting that call to say Mother is dead and I haven't spoken to her for months.

Often the people who say this kind of thing and say "But she's your mother" etc did not have fucked up abusive upbringings.

YANBU at all OP. I would be doing exactly the same as you and my conscience would be clear. Keep her out of your life. She's done this all to herself.

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LittleMissMarker · 21/11/2018 13:59

I also got through the first third - as far as "she had to move in with me and DH" - no she didn't. You were played. Your counselling sessions helped you a great deal but you letting her move in means that she kept much more of a hold over you than she should.

She will never be the mother you deserve. Let your mother go. And maybe find some more counselling for yourself.

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Blanchedupetitpois · 21/11/2018 13:59

Oh, OP Flowers your poor thing, and also you wonderfully strong and resilient person.

There is nothing - NOTHING - wrong with cutting incredibly toxic people out of your life, even if they did happen to birth you. You’ve tried and tried, and been rejected every time by someone who abused you and has been endlessly cruel, damaging and abusive.

You deserve to live your life without this pain and worry and misery. You deserve to be happy and carefree. Don’t feel guilty about the fact that your mother has never been the parent you deserve.

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bershetmelon · 21/11/2018 14:00

FlowersFlowersFlowers you deserve buckets full of flowers. You've been much nicer than I would have been op and stuck with her far longer as well! Yes she is ill now but doesn't negate all the previous years of abuse and doesn't make her treatment of you until you went NC acceptable. The paramedics will be well aware of her antics and it's not your place to worry about that. Do what is best for you and don't allow your friend to make you feel bad for putting yourself first x

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ThankyouLinus · 21/11/2018 14:00

I had a terrible relationship with my DF. I went NC about 8 years ago.

He was hospitalised last year and we (his 4 DC) were told he was basically just waiting to die. I went to visit once out of respect for my DB who had been the only one of us visiting him, he looked nothing like the man I remembered and it was a little distressing to see him so vulnerable. He passed away a few weeks later.

I don't regret not being there for him. I went NC for a valid reason. You need to do what feels right for you OP, there is no right or wrong way to handle this Flowers

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FFSFFSFFS · 21/11/2018 14:03

I'm no contact with my mother. She's still well but I will be doing absolutely nothing whatsoever for her as she ages. Zero.

She not only didn't look after me, but actively harmed me.

I owe her absolutely nothing.

xx

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Oobis · 21/11/2018 14:04

I'm so sorry you didn't have the parents you deserved. You've done mighty fine to get to where you are. You've provided so much care and forgiveness over the years and sadly, your mother simply does not deserve it. It is sad to think of her in poor health with no next of kin, but quite frankly, you've done far more than your share and she has abused you in return. You owe her nothing. You owe yourself good mental health and happiness.
As for the friend - I get that some people are religious and respect their rights to believe what they want. I know that God will perhaps judge everyone on judgement day but am continually surprised how much He seems to delegate the task of judging people to His followers, especially in advance of The Day. If you are happy with your conscience and morals, don't allow anyone else to make you feel guilt.

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Iflyaway · 21/11/2018 14:09

My god, what an incredible woman you are to have come through such horrendous abuse!

Absolutely stay NC.

And do not be swayed by people who haven't a clue what they're talking about.

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AnnabelleLecter · 21/11/2018 14:14

Flowers
This woman has never been a mother to you.
She's lucky to have had you but I think it's high time to say goodbye for good.
Look forward to a life without her abuse and look after yourself from now on.

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LittleMissMarker · 21/11/2018 14:15

My friend said I should make amends before she dies, but it's not as easy as that.

Interesting phrasing, that. It is your mother who should make amends to you before she dies, though it sounds as if she never will. It is not you who needs to make amends at all, and I am shocked that this "friend" said something so ignorant.

I have a friend who is a strict Christian and she was making me feel like I was BU

Stay well away from this person too, she is not a good friend for you.

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fleshmarketclose · 21/11/2018 14:15

You have done far more for your mother than she deserved so you shouldn't feel bad for now going NC for self preservation.
FWIW dgm who was a alcoholic and put df through similar traumas was sent from hospital to a nursing home to die according to the doctors who told him six weeks. She outlived df, dying aged 83 fifteen years after being discharged from hospital still alcohol dependent and still smoking 40 a day (cut down from probably double that).

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 14:16

LittleMissMarker - My DBs both lived in shared houses when Mother's relationship broke down and her family are all in Liverpool (we are near London), as she was working FT at the time, she had to stay local, her DP called me up begging me to pick her up and have her say, as she was behaving like an animal and upsetting his DD, was was only 10 at the time. I had a 3-bed house and felt like I had no choice. But you're right, it did set a precedence.

I am so sorry to all you PPs that also have similar parental issues. My heart goes out to you.

My late Nan (DD's mum) was the person I loved most in the whole world, more than my siblings and parents combined, she was my world and always made me feel special and worthy, we were very close. She died unexpectedly and suddenly in 2014 and it broke my heart, she knew what my mum was like and would always look out for me.

She was proud of me and would always say, "I can't believe what a lovely, well-rounded and caring young lady you've become my darling. That's despite of your parents, not because of them." She was ashamed her son did so little as our dad.

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Prestonsflowers · 21/11/2018 14:17

I too am no contact with my mother, do not listen to anyone who tries to guilt trip you into contacting her.
You are most definitely not being unreasonable.
You need to take care of yourself now. She didn’t so now you do.
Mine was nowhere as cruel as yours but when it’s the one person who is supposed to protect you and they don’t bother that hurts like hell.
I wish you well and the fact that you’ve survived horrific times wil make you stronger.
I’m so glad you have your DP in your life.
💐

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 14:19

@Iflyaway - You made me cry, by calling me an Incredible Woman. Thank you so much, I know I am stronger than I give myself credit for, but that's such a lovely thing to say.

I am off work with a chest infection ATM, m DP is a chef and due home in an hour, he will wonder why he finds me at home bawling my eyes out over my laptop!!!

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tenbob · 21/11/2018 14:22

I'm so, so sorry for what you went through. I've got a lump in my throat reading it

Your mental health is telling you what you need to do. Stay happy, stay healthy, stay away from her

You owe her nothing more, and you should hold your head up knowing you have gone so, so far above the call of duty.
She can now reap what she has sown

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 14:22

Again, thank you all for your kind words and I am sorry so many of you have had similar experiences.

I hope I am lucky enough to adopt soon, I have so much love to give.

I want to adopt an older child, as I want to give a loving home to a child that's had a tough life. They deserve love, support and safety and the adoption charity said my childhood would mean I can relate so much more.

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Mia1415 · 21/11/2018 14:23

You sound like a lovely, kind, strong, amazing lady.

You should feel no guilt. You've done far more than most would have done in the same situation.

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Froglette16 · 21/11/2018 14:25

I’m pleased you have the warden on your side. She obviously knows how difficult your mother can be. The decision of whether or not to be there at the end is yours, however it could give you healthy closure to a toxic situation. And you’d never doubt yourself or your attempts to help her. It might help ease your emotions a bit and find some relief and release. But the ball is entirely in your court right now so keep it there and only do whatever you’re completely comfortable with. Don’t be pushed either way. Losing a parent is tough, even a nasty one. Just do whatever is right for YOU. 🌷🌷🌷

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beachysandy81 · 21/11/2018 14:26

YANBU - the only mistake you have made was to stay in touch once you left home. She really doesn't deserve any kindness from you, if she needs someone to help her she should be asking your little brother who she treated well in childhood.

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WhyAmISoCold · 21/11/2018 14:29

She is a hideous human who deserves zero from you OP. You have done far far more for her than you ever should have done.

Your friend is an idiot. Ignore her.

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Heartofglass21 · 21/11/2018 14:31

My DF who is now heading towards the end of his life, was abusive in every way you can imagine, from my early childhood until early 20's. I was NC for 20+ years and only went to see him recently at the behest of my stepsister (his youngest DD). Dad now has dementia and has turned into a benign old man, loved by the staff at his care home, all twinkly eyed and smiles and thankfulness. He's not the monster he was. I have made my peace with the man he is now, but not with the man he once was.

OP, do what is right for you. And good luck in your adoption journey, sounds like you will be an amazing mum.

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aussielivingabroad · 21/11/2018 14:31

Oh sweetheart you have had such a really shit time. You are not BU at all. And well done for making something out of your life & good luck with the possible adoption. You sound like you will make a fantastic mummy x

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Jux · 21/11/2018 14:32

Please feel no guilt, you paid your dues a long long time ago, and your account balance is clear.

Your Christian colleague should butt out as she doesn't know the half of it, and in your shoes I would just say that mildly if she brings it up again "You don't know the half of it, Colleague, and I don't want to revisit it."

If your DB is now NoK then you can just let him deal with everything when it happens. He had the good, now he have the responsibility. TBH, I'd just leave him to it, maybe turn up for the funeral but only if you actually want to, if you think it would be helpful or you would regret not doing so.

I am so sorry that your childhood was so awful and that you suffered so badly.

You are NOT a bad person, your mother's judgement was shit and she was WRONG.

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Villanellesproudmum · 21/11/2018 14:32

Your upbringing is strangely similar to mine, adopted older brother, younger brother always in trouble including eventually in and out of prison but treated like the angel child, I too was beaten, told she wished I was dead blah blah blah, you know wher I’m coming from. Difference is my parents are still married, my dad worked away a lot and denied ever noticing although he has occasionally mentioned they could have done better. I h e the odd scar and hearing issues from the head hits. No bruises can be seen under the hair line.

Anyway I cut contact but still see my dad, she has cancer, I use to pray as a child she would get cancer or would get run over etc. I looked Into adoption two years ago and was advised I needed to severe all contact also with my dad as adopted children need obviously a safe, secure upbringing so in your position I’d say cut all contact. I’ll like go against you to remain in contact and they’ll also need to interview her.

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