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AIBU to completely cut my mother out of my life, even if she might die soon?

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 13:25

I apologise in advance that this is a LONG post... But I need to give you the full facts. Bear with me!

Bit of background first. I'm 41, live with my DP, no DC yet (hoping to adopt in next couple of years), we work FT and are really happy as a couple.

The major fly in the ointment is my mother (I can't bring myself to call her my 'D'M, for which the reason will become clear in this post). She's 62, lives alone in nice sheltered accommodation and she's been an alcoholic since 2003.

I have always had a strained relationship with her, she fell pregnant with my older DB out of wedlock, didn't have a home or a job and ended up having to give him up for adoption. I came along two years later, premature and very sick as a baby, I even had my last rites read to me by a priest as it was so touch and go. Then another two years later my younger DB arrived. Our parents split when I was about 4-5 y/o.

As long as I can remember, my mother has favoured my younger DB over me, I noticed it in part as a child. Like he would do something cheeky and mother would laugh and cuddle him, so I would invariably copy what he did and get a bollocking, I was expected to help round the house whereas he sat there like a little demi-god and didn't have to lift a finger as "he was a boy", Mother used to call him her little prince... that sort of thing. Family have since told me as an adult that they were always pulling her up on the favouritism, especially when we went to stay with our Nan in the holidays and she'd unpack our case to find DB's clothes were all brand new with tags, whereas mine where looking fit for a bin! She always denied it, but it was very obvious my family say.

This favouritism continued throughout childhood and into adulthood, my DB messed about at school, got in to trouble with the police, flitted about from one dead end job to another, got into fights, but could never do anything wrong in mother's eyes. Whereas, I worked hard at school, got decent grades, paid my own way as soon as I started working PT aged 15, bought my own house in my early 20s and paid for my wedding etc. Never asked her for anything, although acknowledgement of my achievements would have been nice.

After she'd split with our Dad, he wasn't about much in our life, he's a nice person, but selfish and feckless. Mother remarried when I was 6 and after a year or so, SD's temper started to show and he started getting violent. He and my mother would have almighty physical ding dongs where they both were violent to each other, then they started to take the violence out on me, with my SD 75% of the time and my mother the other 25% in hurting me.

I was punched, slapped, slammed into doors, thrown about from one end of the room into the opposite wall, thrown out into the garden the rain in my night dress and locked outside for answering back once. SD once grabbed me by the throat and threw me backwards off a breakfast bar stool in front of my friend for questioning him. My mum also regularly beat me with stiletto heels or a belt, my brother who was a little shit would only ever get a telling off.

Another time a local lad told my SD that I had thrown stones at him (I hadn't) and (as it turns out) SD was having an affair with the lad's mum, he came storming out of the house, screamed at me for my supposed violence to this lad and dragged me all the way back home by my hair as I was screaming in pain and humiliation.

The only time my mother would ever step in was when he was close to hospitalising me. She would say "Stop, we don't want the police or social services involved." So self-preservation, rather than preventing me further harm.

Anyway, fast forward, she left him when I was 16 because of the affair, but had a good few months of both of them refusing to leave the house and every night they were up screaming and fighting which each other. I was doing my GCSEs at the time and ended up having a nervous breakdown after finishing them and ended up on Prozac for a decade.

After I moved out in my teens, I had a ton of counselling, managed to kick the pills and reconcile my shitty childhood and useless parents. I still saw my mother, but on a fairly arm's-length basis. And I consider myself well-balanced, successful, popular and kind (and modest!!), but seriously I am proud that I have made myself a good life when it could have gone the other way so easily. My counsellour believed that my mother was actually very jealous of me.

Mother met a really nice man when I was 19 and living in London. and she and my DB moved in with him, I even moved back for a while until I met my now ex-DH.

Also, she'd been bleating on for years about how desperate she was to find her eldest long-lost DS. So I spent two years trying to find him and when I did, she made zero effort with him, effectively rejecting him all again. (He and I have a close relationship to this day).

In 2003, it all kicked off. Mother's DP decided he wanted to end their relationship, it had just run its course, no dramas, violence, or affairs, he had decided to wait until after my wedding to tell her, sadly it was the week we got back from honeymoon and WW3 kicked off. Cut a very long story short, she turned to drink, had to move in with me and my new DH, was getting drunk and abusive every night, threatening suicide and so began the years of misery where we are today.

She's even more vile a person when drunk and takes umbrage to me as I don't pander to her as much as others do and I tell her how it is. She's slowly over the years lost her friends, alienated all her family, lost her job, lost her house, lost her good looks and just become a bitter and more twisted version of herself. She was extremely lucky to get a flat in her sheltered accommodation considering her age.

Her behaviour was one of the factors contributing to my marriage breakdown and my DP after that absolutely hated her as she was so incredibly vile towards him and me.

It all came to a head about 8 years ago when younger DB met a decent woman and they decided to get married. DB decided he wanted to invite mother's second husband. Bear in mind I'd had 10 years on anti-depressants and years of counselling to get over the violence I endured as a child, my DB conveniently doesn't recall any of this, ex-SD was only ever lovely to my DB.

Anyway, his DW to be knew about the history and asked DB to put me first and uninvite the ex-SD, which DB did. My mother then calls me up screaming at me (bear in mind it's been me wiping her arse since losing her job and home and helping her out with food and money etc.) calling me every name under the sun for "making DB uninvite his DD", erm our feckless dad was coming to the wedding, ex-SD isn't his DD.

I then pointed out that I never interfered, my SIL to be had been sensitive enough to recognise he shouldn't be there. I lost my shit with her and asked how she can justify how much I was beaten as a child, she replied "All parents hit their kids." I pointed out that this wasn't true and smacking and beating were two different things, especially as I was almost hospitalised regularly. I asked her what she would do if she now saw a 16st 6ft man beating a whip thin 7 year old, she said she would step in. I said you didn't when it was me and she's replied "You were a bitch, you deserved it." I was gobsmacked and replied heartbroken, "No I wasn't, I was a child." and hung up.

Since then, both DBs have moved away and washed their hands off of her as she's getting worse and more vile with every month that passes, none of her siblings speak to her and she probably only had three friends left.

As I am her only family local for 100 miles, I was put down as Next of Kin despite keeping her very much at arm's length and this is where the phone calls started, the warden at the home calling me as mother has been unpleasant to other residents, she even pinned a dear old lady up against the wall and threatened to smash her face in for daring to knock at mother's door while she was trying to have a lie in!

I was getting calls from her all the time, self-pitying, crying, moaning abut nonsensical things, blaming everyone else for er problems and just constant "woe is me" behaviour.

Three years ago she was told she has first stages of cirrhosis, but refuses to quit drinking. She's been in hospital more times than I can count and usually discharges herself as "she's bored", "hates the staff" or simply as she can't drink in hospital.

But what has been the final nail in the coffin is this year, she's started taking to calling for an ambulance about every two weeks, for really minor things, swollen legs for example. Her legs are swollen as her liver is failing and her abdomen and legs are retaining fluid. She lives a £5 taxi from hospital but calls 999 herself or pulls the read cord in her flat and they call one and then call me every time.

When the paramedics arrive, she then refuses to go to hospital, they then spend an hour trying to persuade her, all the time they could be attending people in more need. Half the time when she does go with them, she kicks off in hospital because of the waiting and usually discharges herself, before calling the ambulance again the following week for the same thing. It's never ending and exhausting for all involved.

I finally lost my shit in June thsi year, I was at a festival and got a call from the red cord call centre and the warden, she had asked for an ambulance for her swollen legs again and when it arrived, she asked them to change a light bulb and fix her land line phone!!!!!!

She refused to talk to me when I called from the festival, kept telling me to fuck off, so I told her fried to tall her to change her Next of Kin to some other mug and to stay out of my life. Then blocked her number and on Facebook etc.

I'm ashamed to say that my life has been much nicer and less stressful last 5 months since I told her to fuck off for good. Then last week, I find out she's in hospital again, but nobody can get anything for her as my little DB doesn't ever answer his phone and is now her Next of Kin. She kept trying to contact me too, I refused to speak to her. She's since discharged herself and the warden thinks mother will be dead in next 6 months. Which is hard to hear TBH.

Mother told warden and friend she's been drinking more heavily recently, which put her back in hospital last week "Because of her daughter not talking to her", she takes no responsibility for her actions.

I have a friend who is a strict Christian and she was making me feel like I was BU last week as I wouldn't visit her or take her calls and friend says I should understand my mother has an illness. But my well-meaning friend hasn't had to endure what I have.

I said that I was living this illness with her was making me ill too, I had another mini breakdown through the stress of it all a few years back, but counselling when I was young meant I was better equipped to deal with it.

When she's in my life, she makes me miserable, it affects my work, my relationship and causes me worry. My friend said I should make amends before she dies, but it's not as easy as that.

She's a stranger to me now, I look at her photos and feel nothing for her, she's chipped away at any feelings of love I ever had slowly since I was born, which have been exasperated since she became an alcoholic. Plus she's been given six months to live countless times and keeps on dodging death somehow.

Sorry this post is an essay, truly am. But WWYD?

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 16:19

@Didiusfalco TBF to my colleague. I only told her the basics. So she responded on the scsnt details I chose to share in the workplace. I didn't want my colleagues to know the abuse stuff, I know she meant well. Just made me question my actions a bit.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 16:20

@Diddlysquats I absolutely love your frankness. You're like me, I don't sit on the fence getting splinters in my arse! Grin

So very sorry for what you've been through BTW. Flowers

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 16:24

Can I just thank you all again for your unanimous replies. I'm off work unwell ATM so was feeling sorry for myself and this was all swimming about in my mind.

Some of the replies and the things I dredged up this afternoon made me cry, but now I feel more empowered and at ease with my decision.

Onwards and upwards. I'm more determined than ever to have the life I want. Thank you.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 16:26

I will also refer back to this thread when I get that dreaded call, which I hope will give me strength again.

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OracleofDelphi · 21/11/2018 16:31

as others have said - she may have physically given birth to you, but doesnt sound like there is a whole lot of "mothering" going on..... Fuck your friend - she hasnt lived your life. Also my DM had a v difficult relationship with her mother - my grandmother. She was an out and out narcisisst and very difficult. When she died my DM was so sad - not because she missed her mother - but becuase the opportunity to ever have a close relationship with someone who cares - was now dead. She knew it wasnt ever going to happen logically, but whilst she was alive there was hope. So you may well mourn her loss.... that doesnt mean you need to put up with her behaviour whilst she is alive.

Also - and dont quote me on this - but many people die without estates, and without assets, or family. No one has to have a proper funeral - its not the law to give her one. If she dies and no one will pay she will have to be buried at the council expense. So it doesnt and wont have to fall to you. If you instruct an undertaker then you have instructed their services and will need to pay. But you are under no obligation to do so.

I think counselling would help - to at least enable you to keep your distance emotionally from this person. Rationally you have to do nothing for her - and so that perspective might help. I also would be contacting council etc about what would happen when she dies - just so you dont inadvertantly end up with a big bill. Im so so sorry you have been through this. You have put up with far more than many others would bear. Move forwards and dont look back

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 16:32

@OracleofDelphi that's really practical and helpful, will look into all that. Promise!

Thank you.

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OracleofDelphi · 21/11/2018 16:33
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NWQM · 21/11/2018 16:33

All of these posts have been so very moving. Keep being strong OP.

I hope it helps to know that we were unable to offer anything really but friends as support. Both my parents were ill and as we predicted are sadly no longer with us. My husbands live a distance away. We were pushed about it during the adoption process but we have fantastic friends and we just kept saying what we believed - that we would be supported & we are.

Good luck.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 16:38

@NWQM that's great to hear. Have you completed the adoption process now?

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NewMinouMinou · 21/11/2018 16:48

Oh mate.
I’m NC with my mother for not-dissimilar reasons and over the years a few people have trotted out the old “You only get one mum/how will you feel?” stuff.
These people are lucky to not get why some people have to go NC.

You might feel relieved, you might feel sad; it might be a mixture of feelings. You might feel sad and angry at missing out on a better mother.
You almost certainly won’t feel as bad as you did when you were being beaten.

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aynsleyred · 21/11/2018 16:56

My God, she sounds horrendous. You haven’t gotten anything positive from a relationship with her so don’t feel bad for walking away. She’s brought everything she’s moaned about upon herself, because of the way she is. You’ve done amazing to get where you and be who you are Flowers

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NWQM · 21/11/2018 17:00

@GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery Yes, we have been a family 5 years now.

I'm an only child. I worry a little about what would happen if anything happened to me or my husband but it sounds as if you have good family round you and that you have all risen above your childhood.

There are some lovely supportive adoption threads but apologies I've no idea how you tag them. Head over to them though when you feel ready.

Can I add that I have just lost my Mum and am devastated as she was wonderful. I was however still upset when an Uncle who abused me died and I did decide to attend the funeral. This isn't about me so won't go into lots of details but just wanted to say that grief - and you can start grieving at any point - is a powerful and quirky emotion. I reckon that you will grieve even a wicked Mum. Again there is a lovely thread of supportive people there for people who lost parents.

Don't be stranger as the saying goes in either:

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:04

@NWQM I'm so happy for you having your own family. How wonderful.

I'm also sorry about your previous abuse and recent lossvif your DM. Hope you can draw strength from your family.

I will certainly take a skip over to those other threads. Thank you.

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BinglyBunglyBoops · 21/11/2018 17:13

I can’t believe you didn’t cut her off years ago, you owe her nothing. She is a vile excuse for a human being.

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Lizzie48 · 21/11/2018 17:13

I've posted about my adopted DDs a lot on here and I've found the support to be excellent. I'd already long since got through the adoption process before joining MN, but there are a lot of us on here who have done it, and it's a great place for support.

There are also groups on Facebook that you can join. You need to talk to people who have been through the adoption process and are now adoptive parents. I had a lot of 'help' from very well meant friends and family, but it really isn't the same as having your own bio DC, so their advice wasn't all that helpful.

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ThanosSavedMe · 21/11/2018 17:18

Next time your ‘friend’ pipes up tell them they haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about and you’re not about to explain it to them but in this instance they need to keep out.

Or you could go with the less subtle fuck off out of my business!

As everyone else has said you do not need to get in touch with this women. She gave up any rights to your time and kindness many many years ago

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ButchyRestingFace · 21/11/2018 17:22

I hope I am lucky enough to adopt soon, I have so much love to give.

Assuming it would be a state adoption, this is even more reason to keep your distance, I would have thought.

The (admittedly few) people I know who've adopted have had SS come out to meet extended family members who will play a part in the child's life. Nuff said.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:27

As I say. Friend is a colleague and I only told her the basic details that mother was in hospital and when people were wondering why I was upset but wasn't rushing off I explained privately to three colleagues that she's alcoholic. So colleague / friend doesn't know full history and made her advice based on that. She's a lovely lady and very well meaning, I guess if she knew full extent she might offer different advice, but I don't want to share my Jeremy Kyle-esque childhood professionally! Grin

Thanks to you and PPs for the support and making me feel more resolute in my decision making.

Lizzie, I joined MN purely for the adoption info / support, so I shall be sure to embrace those topics when I get the ball rolling. Flowers

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:28

@ButchyRestingFace I'm looking into it through council and a charity. So yes, it's duly noted, if my mother gets past this current spell I shan't waver on my decision.

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PeevedOfPortishead · 21/11/2018 17:36

You do realise she'll stay alive simply to spite you yes? It's what they do. My monster has a list of ailments which would kill a healthy 25 year old - yet still she lives. She's had more deathbeds than a dreams showroom.

Note - there will always be nay-sayers. Those with a mother who wasn't toxic will never get it and will cause you to FURTHER question if it is indeed you who is somehow faulty.

You're not. The world is full of dicks.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:40

@PeevedOfPortishead. Not sure if it's appropriate, but your post made me chuckle. Especially the Dreams showroom line. Grin I've made dark jokes that she'll do it when I'm on holiday, at a festival, away with my DP and dogs by the sea.

I have to make light of it, it's the only way to reason with my feelings, worries and guilt.

I wish you all the best and send hugs for your life and coping with your monster. Flowers

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BookwormMe · 21/11/2018 17:41

I haven't RTFT but I agree you should stay NC. She's not your mother, she's just the woman who gave birth to you.

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DexyMidnight · 21/11/2018 17:41

I think you should go and visit her, tell her you love her and that you forgive her but you need to step away, and wish her well. Even if you don't love her / forgive her / wish her well. Be unfailingly kind, but firm. Give her a hug and let her go.

I don't think you owe her this, and it doesn't sound like she deserves it. But I am worried that if she dies you will regret not having tried to make your peace with her. Again to be clear - i don't think you should feel remorse or guilt, whatever you do, but when she dies you might end up having regrets, even though you needn't. Hope that makes sense.

If she throws it back in your face you'll know you did all you could.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:44

@DexyMidnight as awful as it sounds, I would be lying if I said I loved her. Sad

She's slowly chipped away at any feelings I may have once had for her. I feel nothing but anger, pity and frustration.

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GetMeOffThisCycleOfMisery · 21/11/2018 17:45

Plus she'd use the conversation to go on a bender, citing her "horrible daughter" as the reason.

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