AIBU to think you should be on time for work

[Elphie54]

He I work 12 hour shifts over night, with the possibility of the shift turning into 16 hour shifts if your relief doesn’t show up. Yesterday, my one coworker and I got into an argument because he is always late. Not by 5 or 10 minutes, usually 45+. He relieves me all 3 days and I was sick of it. His argument was “you know you can be mandated for 4 hours!” I said “yes but that doesn’t dmean you can show up late every single day!” Job top of that, he is the first to complain if his relief is a minute late. I’ve spoken to management, but they don’t seem to do much about it. He is not the only one who does that either. There are several other coworkers that habitually come in 10 minutes late. While that may not seem like much, if you relief isn’t there, you have to log back into the computer and risk hett

Do you get paid for the extra time?

Complain to management again.

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You have to log back into the computer system and risk being stuck later.

I just don’t understand this mentality. Since it’s multiple people who are always late, I feel like I might be missing something. Has it now become acceptable consistently be late to work? AIBU to think they should be on time?

“Do you get paid for the extra time?

Complain to management again.”

Yes. We are paid hourly so you get paid from when you clock in, to when you clock out.

I’d be expecting management to crack down hard on this. 45+ mins regularly. CF.

Keep complaining to the point of annoying them, literally every time relief is late.

I have done that. Now every time they are late I send and email that goes to our direct supervisors, the director of operations and COO/CEO. So far it hasn’t done anything.

I have also reported the “time stealing” this guy does. I know for a fact (he has told us) that he does not clock in so that they can’t see that he is late, and he emails payroll to “correct” his hours each week (tells them he was on time and forgot to clock in).

Hide his timecard so he can't put it in the mouth to get stamped!

Report him for fraud. Do you have cctv to prove it?

I have also reported the “time stealing” this guy does. I know for a fact (he has told us) that he does not clock in so that they can’t see that he is late, and he emails payroll to “correct” his hours each week (tells them he was on time and forgot to clock in).

Surely they can tell what time he came in by what time you clocked out?

I would be couching it to management that it has an adverse impact on your life and you can't make plans etc. because he so unreliable. Can he be "assigned" to someone else so at least you get a break from his lateness?

“Hide his timecard so he can't put it in the mouth to get stamped!”

Haha. Unfortunately we clock in by thumb print.

“Report him for fraud. Do you have cctv to prove it?”

We do have a camera in the room but many of us are convinced it is just for show and doesn’t actually record anything.

“Surely they can tell what time he came in by what time you clocked out?

I would be couching it to management that it has an adverse impact on your life and you can't make plans etc. because he so unreliable. Can he be "assigned" to someone else so at least you get a break from his lateness?”

No because if I get stuck on a late job (it happens a lot) there can be an overlap in clock in/clock out times. I work on an ambulance. We clock in at the hospital and then log on to the computer in the truck. If my partner and I are on a “late job”, relief clocks in and waits for us to return to hand over the truck and equipment. Even if we are waiting for the previous crew, we are getting paid, so what time I clock out doesn’t mean much. I do add in a comment that he was late, if that’s why I’m clocking out late. My partner and I take turns on who stays each shift.

Do you have a whistleblowing policy? If he's late 3 times a week then he's stealing over 2 hours every week AND forcing them to pay you an extra 2 hours.

He's committing fraud, I would keep escalating it.

I work on an ambulance.

Ah. I have several paramedic/technician friends - are you working the same "regular" shifts every time then? (they normally has different shifts each week. Some nights, some days etc. Unlikely they would be followed by the same crew every time I'd have thought?)

Anyway, as a tax payer, I would very much like you to report him please

I work the same 3 overnight shifts each week, with the same partner 2 of those shifts. I know other areas have rotating shifts, but luckily ours aren’t. He relieves me most shifts. The guy is great at his job (I’ve wprked a shift with him many moons ago), but he has no consideration for his fellow paramedics.

I am going to keep up reporting it though. It’s so annoying when your finally getting out on time, to realize your relief is late and you are going to log back on.