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Teachers - do you enjoy it?

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Wineandcheese2 · 17/11/2018 23:51

NC'd. Looking for some advice. Posting here for traffic.

Can the teachers out there tell me what it's like day to day. I read a lot of negative posts. I'm 12 months out of uni and considering doing a teaching course.

My background is in the emergency services but my degree is in law - I'm a bit older than your regular graduate.

Any advice would be welcome.

OP posts:
annoyingcat · 18/11/2018 11:05

Good point:
The children can be sweet, funny and interesting. A well-behaved class, who listen to you and learn from you can make you feel very satisfied. I teach Reception and feel so proud to see them come with no phonics, unable to write, and within a few months they are writing stories - it's amazing to see.
Bad point:
Naughty, rude, out of control children spoil this. If you are unlucky enough to have several in one class the year can feel never ending, the pressure to make sure they learn when they refuse to is immense, and your mental health can seriously suffer. Seriously, just because they are 5 does not mean they can't seriously affect you. I've been kicked and hit, sworn at. (PS - these kids are NEVER absent)

Good point:
Parents words of thanks and respect.
Bad point:
Most don't respect you. They make impossible demands on you, like having to keep track of their little angel's every un-named jumper and water bottle. How dare you not know where they are? In reference to the bad point above, the parents of these naughty children are often the worst, and then the decent parents have a go at you for not controlling the naughty ones as their child suffers. Argh! Sometimes you want to tell them to f off, but of course, you have to be understanding and helpful.

Good point:
The holidays
Bad point:
The exhaustion leading up to them.

Good point:
Let's be honest, it's a decent salary compared to a lot of jobs.
Bad point:
It doesn't reflect rising cost of living, and given the state of school budgets, you end up spending a lot of it on your class, or feeling guilty that they can't have playdough as there's no budget for resources.

Bad point:
The paper work, meetings and all the crap talked about in them.

Bad point:
Inclusion. Sorry - it DOES NOT serve certain children best. I for example have a severely autistic child in my class, no one-to-one, as there is no money to supply one. I support him, or I support the other 25 children. The pressure is immense and yes, I have a TA, but they have to be outdoors providing the continuous provision.

Bad point:
The constant observations.

Bad point:
Out of touch headteachers/SLT who are office based and wouldn't know what to do in a classroom.

Bad point:
The above bad points are only getting worse. In 11 years, I have seen a depressing deterioration in the conditions, the levels of respect for teachers, the behaviour of children. The above poster who says you cannot just concentrate on education any more has nailed it.

Good point:
It's a career for life.
Bad point:
It's a career for life.

annoyingcat · 18/11/2018 11:07

Forgive bad grammar - shocking - but I'm tired and procrastinating when I should be marking!

fruityb · 18/11/2018 11:13

I love teaching - I love being in the classroom and being a performing monkey lol. It’s great working with kids and having some fun and sharing the love you have of your subject. I’m teaching a lot of Shakespeare this term which makes me very happy and I really feel I can inject enthusiasm into kids. They seem to respond well to me and I’m someone they want to please for some reason!

Outside the classroom it can be hard and when you feel like you’re the only one challenging pupils for various things it’s frustrating. When the ones in charge don’t know what it’s like on the front line as it were - they don’t know the kids as well at all.

The marking and box ticking and report and data inputting can be very tedious and some parents are just ridiculous. I work with an amazing department though and they make it all worthwhile.

It’s irritating and tiring and at times I just want to run away. But I can’t for some reason!

fruityb · 18/11/2018 11:18

And agree on the above point about inclusion. There are times we get kids with needs we just cannot meet. They need more than we can give. We have a pupil who frequently walks out of lessons and goes on a trek round the school. I can’t leave my room very easily as there are others in there I could never leave. You send a message and hope someone is there to get it or has time to come and get the pupil who has gone. This disrupts your class as they’re all fascinated by what’s happening...

We get kids who cannot read yet have good SATS results... we get kids with massive anger issues that aren’t documented... we have year 7 pupils who would go for teachers if given half a chance... we have older pupils who are frequently taking drugs...

Honestly it’s a nightmare at times! But you do have a huge amount of positives to work with too. The kids that achieve after you thinking they never would; the ones who it finally clicks for and they manage to answer something they haven’t been able to.

It has aged me horribly...

jaseyraex · 18/11/2018 11:20

I started teaching in a primary school and moved on to teaching art at a high school. On a whole, I loved teaching. As everyone else has said, it's all the stuff that comes along side teaching that is the shit part. If you can devote all your time to it and have minimal other commitments, no small children etc, then it can definitely be rewarding for the most part. But it is very all consuming and you'll have little time for anything outside of work. I didn't go back after maternity leave with my first DS. I've been studying to get in to art therapy for kids once baby DS has funded hours at nursery, I couldn't go back to teaching now.

sarahC40 · 18/11/2018 11:27

I've enjoyed every single lesson I've taught since September, but am looking for routes out as that's such a tiny part of the job. I'm so sad that it's being beaten out of me, but I'm feeling increasingly depressed by the impact of being a teacher on my mh, my family life, my pocket etc. I love the kids, find it rewarding but it's a job that will use you up and spit you out. My son was strongly advised by me to avoid teaching (as my dad did to me, years before) but more importantly, by my dh, who made comments about he felt he had so little from me when I'm under pressure - he's a very loving and supportive partner, but feels ignored. It echoed what my mum said about my dad when he was working. There are other ways to work to support young people and I will be off to find them. As my gp suggested, 'sounds like being teacher is a bit shit.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 18/11/2018 11:30

I taught for a number of years. Core subject at secondary. The light bulb moments were very rare and didn't make up for the rudeness of the kids, the awful SLT or the absurd demands on time. The teaching part is good, mostly. Being a teacher is not good. The only time I really enjoyed it was in an independent school. But I had to move region so I very sadly had to leave. The whole system needs an overhaul. Unions are pathetic and nobody will make a stand because they'll be targeted by SLT as a trouble maker.

sarahC40 · 18/11/2018 11:31

Oh and I hate long hols as I prefer being busy. However, when I 'pop into work', I find many colleagues there too desperately trying to get ready - so don't take the job for the long hols. Just waiting for the list to be sent around asking for 'which staff will be volunteering to do extra revision days (unpaid) in half term and Easter.

userabcname · 18/11/2018 11:35

I mostly enjoy it. I teach a core subject at secondary. The teaching bit is generally ok - it's all the other crap that piles on and adds pressure. Now I have my own child I really struggle to keep on top of everything. I will probably be asking to go part time next year as a result.

Streambeam · 18/11/2018 12:28

The top qualities you need, even before passion, motivation to make a difference etc, are -

  1. Energy
  2. Organisation/ multi-tasking skills
  3. Good emotional stability / resilience.

These aren’t the only skills you need, but without them you will not be happy long term as a teacher.

I know so many teachers who are brilliant with children, highly talented in their subjects, creative, altruistic, extremely motivated and hard-working...
But it is a demanding job, physically, mentally, emotionally. You need good coping skills. You need to be the sort of person who has a balanced perspective on life, knows their own limits, has good self-control.

Streambeam · 18/11/2018 12:34

I meant to say those hard-working, good with kids, altruistic teachers are not always the best teachers and they’re often not happy.

The personal qualities that make you WANT to teach, are not enough to make you HAPPY to teach or to flourish in the career.
You need serious grit.

fruityb · 19/11/2018 16:52

Having been spoken to like shit by about five kids today who were totally separate from each other I am seriously reconsidering my life choices 😡😡

I have been called a fucking bitch, pathetic, stupid and then just plain ignored. Lovely stuff!

LadyRenoir · 19/11/2018 17:00

I used to like it, but then worked in a horrendously managed (mismanaged school) where kids were horrendous, parents were mostly horrendous, and there was no support. I changed after two years, found a much nicer school, but year on year the job gets shittier. I have two kids now, and quite frankly I want to bring them up instead of bringing up other people's kids. My school has a very long day to enable kids doing homework and everyone has to do an extracurricular activities/supervision most days, and the only reason why I havent changed is the team and the fact I know quite well schools in the area and I would not want to work in a single one of them. paperwork and admin is becoming ridiculous, the system needs more money, the pay is alright, but you of work 50+ if not 60 or 70 hours a week if you want to do what is necessary. If not, you end up like me, a bit of a black sheep in the department (I refuse to work weekends and most evenings- these are for the family, and most people in my dept are single or don't have kids).

LadyRenoir · 19/11/2018 17:02

@fruityb - I lived through this in one of my workplaces. And the SLT were not supportive, kids were wild. When one watches the programmes like Educating whatever, the management always smiles and looks supportive, but I think when cameras are off and you work in a school where kids do whatever you want, and there are no aspirations, life is tough and job definitely not worth it.

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