To think that if you don't like a particular board being dominated by one subject....

[PerverseConverse]

then instead of hiding that board, you yourself should start threads on issues that you do want to talk about?

I'm fed up of hearing people slating the FWR board for only focusing on one particular topic and saying they've had to hide it.

I'd welcome other issues being discussed and I'm pretty sure others would too so what's stopping people?

NB posting here as if the posters concerned have hidden the FWR board there's no Lou t posting it there.

I have loads of feminist issues I'd like to discuss, but I've hidden FWR. In my experience if you have a certain perspective on one single issue, almost any other issue you might want to discuss always comes back to your definition of "woman", and who exactly your feminism includes.

But that's just my personal experience.

RatRolyPoly if the issue is something totally unrelated then why not post? I'm not sure I've seen any threads where you are the OP on other feminism issues. I'd be more than happy to engage in discussing other issues.

I found with these boards if you have a different view there are group of people that can get quite nasty. It feels like people are just on their soap boxes rather than open to a discussion. I also found that the issue is always brought back to what constitutes as a woman or no matter what the thread starts as, it away seems to be brought round to the same statements. Which, for me, is boring and so far removed from what I want to read.

Unfortunately you don't get to say what people should do on here so YABU. People are well within their rights to use MN however they so wish (with the t&cs obviously)and decide what they want to be exposed to. They do not have to start an alternative thread, if I knew now how to hide threads I would definitely do so with these.

I would probably just try and concentrate on the threads you enjoy and let other people do the same.

I completely agree with the other posters

And this from you OP:

I'm not sure I've seen any threads where you are the OP on other feminism issues.

Is exactly the kind of thing I get fed up with. Being thread police does not encourage people to take part in debate.

A couple of reasons:

1. almost any discussion in the FWR board becomes a discussion about transgenderism sooner or later.

2. even if you do try and post your own threads, they soon become overwhelmed by the hundreds of trans threads

3. it’s a hostile place to hang out generally if you don’t agree with the MN majority on trans rights. I don’t want to see thirty trans-bashing thread titles. It upsets me. So I hide the board entirely for my own emotional well-being.

Yes, exactly as others have said. I have plenty of other spaces both online and irl where I can discuss feminist issues. There was a thread the other day that was about women prisoners and the awful conditions they face in childbirth, I clicked but I did so wondering at what point the completely non-relevant point of transgenderism would come up and it was in the OP fgs!!!
The Mumsnet FWR board is an echo chamber and a one-issue platform.

I agree OP.

There is no way a feminist thread about period poverty or how to encourage girls in mixed schools to find their voice or how oppression affects women in a million tiny ways each day would be steered elsewhere. Sometimes you have to be active when replying and putting forward arguments in order to get a thread going.

Start the threads. Don’t police what other women want to discuss.

they are not 'Trans bashing' FFS

if you want to discuss FGM, pay gap, people trafficking, the domestic servants in UAE, taking Mrs on marriage..... anything at all. Just start a thread it's easy.

@SmileEachDay surely the people hiding a thread are not trying to police anything. They are removing themselves from being exposed the the thread.

Telling people to start their own thread and not say they are hiding a thread is more like policing people's actions or am I missing something.

I haven't hidden it but I have no interest generally in engaging with it. I'd be interested in discussing the welfare of women prisoners but it would only involve transgenderism so what's the point?
I reckon every so often they probably get tired of not having people to disagree with so posters like the OP come over to try to get some new posters in.
No thank you. I've better things to do with my time.

It's a reasonable question to ask why people don't start their own threads on the board they are interested in.

I'd be very interested in discussing the welfare of women prisoners. It's not something I know much about so would be keen to engage and learn something.

bourbon there is another thread on here at the mo complaining about trans threading leaking out of FWR and infecting other boards.

Clearly everyone was supposed to follow my internal line of thinking about the policing comment 😂😂

Choccywoccyhooha
did you mean this one?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3422263-Female-prisoners-in-England-left-to-give-birth-alone-in-their-cells

I don't start threads in FWR about the feminist issues I care about because most of my previous experiences there have involved being shouted down for not being anti-trans.

There seems to be a prevailing perspective on that board that you can't be a feminist without being anti-trans. I don't agree, but don't particularly want to spend my time being shouted down by posters who think there is only one acceptable way to be a feminist, so I go on boards where is have a more pleasant experience.

@PerverseConverse you are quite right to say you can ask why people don't start their own threads but to say they "should" comes across a bit differently.

@SmileEachDay sorry I have absolutely no idea what that means, excuse my ignorance.

I think some boards become dominated with a type of poster with a single point of view, obsessed with a narrow range of topics. Personally I just hide them because I can't single handedly turn the tide and don't really have the energy to try (I'm just on MN for light hearted entertainment).

Maybe I'll pop back some time in the future then PerverseConverse I've got loads I'd love to talk about, like the death of lads' mags vs the rise of online pornography, the question of what sexual liberation looks like for women, and why female psychopaths are less frequently criminally violent than males psychopaths and what that tells us about male criminal violence. I'll get pondering! Although I generally prefer to be a side-kick than a leading lady.

'trans bashing' 'anti-trans' using terms like these I'm not surprised you don't get far on the boards. It misses so many points but allows a passer by to make a quick decision, "Oh that sounds nasty 'bashing' and anti.. it must be bad"

Yet a lot of what is discussed on those threads many Transexuals actually agree with, because they are being thrown under the bus with women.

You carry on calling it that, But none of the subject is that simple and as black and white as you paint it. it's not Anti trans V trans.

You carry on calling it that, But none of the subject is that simple and as black and white as you paint it. it's not Anti trans V trans.

I've only today been posting almost exactly the same sentiment as this, but in reverse! It' not trans vs anti-trans, I agree. But both sides are saying, "you're either with us or you're against us!". It's not helpful.

I've been called a misogynist, anti-woman, you name it I've been called it, because who wants to agree with the nasty anti-woman person on the feminist board? I've also called people out countless times for telling posters that "if they think xyz then they're a transphobic TERF, just like me", which simply isn't true. It isn't a war of two factions, or at least it doesn't have to be, and we shouldn't encourage it being!

Feminists like me who recognise trans women as women are not "anti-woman", and women (perhaps like yourself?) who think they're not women aren't transphobic by default.

Aaaaanyway, less of that. I'd quite like to see more non-trans-related feminism topics covered on the main boards to be honest then I won't miss them on account of having hidden FWR

Why are people talking about trans on this thread? Posters complain about there being too much emphasis on trans but then mention it themselves! I don't want this thread about trans which is why I purposely didn't mention the subject.

Sorry, I got segued by the previous poster, my apologies!

I don't want this thread about trans which is why I purposely didn't mention the subject.

No, you didn’t mention it - you knew you wouldn’t have to. There’s no way you couldn’t see this coming.