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When will we know if a no deal Brexit is happening, or not?

25 replies

AbsentmindedWoman · 15/11/2018 15:06

I'm a type 1 diabetic and depend on insulin. If we do go the no deal route, there could be a period of scrambling with the medicine supply chain for a few weeks.

Things seem not much clearer today than they were before. I was hoping we'd know if it was going to be no deal or not, by October, and it's now November.

When will we know?

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seventhgonickname · 15/11/2018 15:08

This is not an AIBU and I am trying to have a Brexit free afternoon.Your insulin will be fine.

AbsentmindedWoman · 15/11/2018 15:13

Posting here for traffic. This isn't a thread for in depth political analysis, there's plenty of threads for that.

I simply want the information about when we will know if no deal is going ahead, or not.

There are plenty of people in the UK who need medicine, it's useful to know this. It's also too simplistic (not to mention dismissive) to just say my insulin will be fine - you quite literally do not know that, because we're all unsure as to what exactly will happen.

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BigChocFrenzy · 15/11/2018 15:14

We might not even know until Brexit Day

The govt is asking pharmaeutical firms to stock up 6 weeks supplies - but some medicines can't be stored that long
and anyway, there is a shortage of suitable cold storage facilities for those meds that need them

Chocolala · 15/11/2018 15:15

We should have a good idea By the end of January

BigChocFrenzy · 15/11/2018 15:15

In a No Deal emergency, if ports are logjammed and civilian flights grounded,

I'm sure the RAF would fly in emergency meds
and the various EU Air Forces also would help if asked

AbsentmindedWoman · 15/11/2018 15:16

We might not even know until Brexit Day

Woah Shock

Yes, I know that pharma is being asked to stock up, but as you say, it ain't quite that simple!

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PostNotInHaste · 15/11/2018 15:20

Was talking to friend about this is is very senior in a Diabetes clinic plus has type 1 relatives as my DH has type 1. She’s telling her patients to try and get 2 months together just in case. Reckons blood testing strips will be fine as manufactured in UK but not to take the risk with insulin. Thankfully our GP has been playing ball and DH has a bit of a stash going.

mycatplotsdeath · 15/11/2018 15:25

Get a grip!
You will have medicine!

AbsentmindedWoman · 15/11/2018 15:29

Get a grip!
You will have medicine!

Well, you're a veritable goldmine of useful factual information, aren't you? Nothing shrill or meaningless at all Grin

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WhatdoImean · 15/11/2018 15:36

Interesting comment from the Health Secretary (you know... the people in government) - he is reported as confirming that "in the event of a no deal Brexit, people will die

As such, yes, I think worrying and planning on how to survive is a rational decision....

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 15:39

The Health Minister has today been on the radio saying he can not guarentee people won't die in a No Deal situation.

So don't tell the OP to get a grip.

Its a fair question given whats been said.

SmashedPatsy · 15/11/2018 15:41

When we leave the EU your diabetes will be cured. It's called sovereignty. I think.

FishesaPlenty · 15/11/2018 15:43

We're going to take back control of our disorders.

bellinisurge · 15/11/2018 15:46

I'm sorry you are worried @AbsentmindedWoman .
I hope/assume that people in your situation and my pal about to start chemotherapy will be prioritised.
All the more reason for people to keep A&E and the NHS generally clear so it can focus where it needs to.
And yes, I am talking about people getting pissed and into scrapes. Which is utterly avoidable.

FishesaPlenty · 15/11/2018 15:46

But to (partly) answer the question, we'll know if 'a deal' isn't happening fairly soon - before the end of the year I think. But in theory (subject to the ruling of the ECJ) we could pull the plug on leaving right up to the last moment.

TwoGinScentedTears · 15/11/2018 15:48

Good god, some posters are being so shitty

I'm afraid I am on your thread to follow, would've just watched the thread, but shittiness made me comment!

Grimbles · 15/11/2018 15:50

Cmon op. You may become severely ill or even die, but we might have blue passports, so get a grip will ya?

whyayepetal · 15/11/2018 15:51

OP - sorry you are having to worry about this. I second what Post said, and would be trying to get together a supply little by little in advance if gp would help.

(Fishes Grin)

borntobequiet · 15/11/2018 15:54

Re cancer treatment - in the Draft Agreement it’s clear that we are to leave the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community (Euratom).
ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement_0.pdf

What this will mean for the supply of radioisotopes is not clear.

Satsumaeater · 15/11/2018 15:59

It won't happen. The current deal will be accepted in the end. No deal simply isn't an option. And in any event, it is only about leaving the EU. We have the transition period (and beyond) to negotiate our "future relationship".

I guess the alternative is another referendum but then the EU would have to allow us to delay our exit, and I am not sure they will do that. But they might.

I think it is dawning on people that no deal isn't possible.

What I don't want to happen is for remain MPs to vote against the deal because they think it means we stay. It doesn't work like that.

Talkstotrees · 15/11/2018 16:06

What makes you say that Satsuma? Why, in your opinion, is a new ref not a possibility?

1tisILeClerc · 15/11/2018 16:06

At this stage nothing is guaranteed. In a couple of weeks time (or possibly later) when the EU have confirmed with the UK that the WA is 'agreed' then the direction the UK is heading will be marginally clearer.
NOTHING is yet cast in stone and there is always the possibility of a 'cock up'.

FishesaPlenty · 15/11/2018 16:08

The current deal will be accepted in the end. No deal simply isn't an option

May seemed happy enough to suggest a third option (stopping Brexit) yesterday. She was very keen to avoid answering questions on that option in Parliament today though.

SmashedPatsy · 15/11/2018 16:24

At this point stopping Brexit is the only sensible solution.

We can have another referendum when the Leavers actually have something resembling a plan.

Such an embarrassing time to be British.

HerLadySheep · 15/11/2018 16:57

@satsumaeater, I think you're way off mark, I've got more chance of pissing in the Queen's handbag than Theresa May has of getting this through Parliament!
To the OP, I believe 21st January is D-day in terms of full steam ahead for a no deal exit if we've not sorted things by then.....which I fear is the likely outcome.

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