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To think that a lot of Corbyn's anorak comments

69 replies

EggplantsForever · 13/11/2018 21:37

Aren't genuine? As in, they are paid for?

Come on, real people cannot ACTUALLY be that shallow!

(I am not a labor voter, nor a voter at all. Just an observer, really)

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BertrandRussell · 16/11/2018 15:42

“I'm old enough to remember when Michael Foot wore a donkey jacket to the Remembrance Day ”

Really? Must have been in alternative universe then, considering that he didn’t!

MessyBun247 · 16/11/2018 15:44

‘It's not like he wore a Peppa pig poncho from Primark’

Great, now I’m going to have that image ingrained in my memory forever Grin

RedRoseReb · 16/11/2018 15:52

It was an historically significant day on Sunday.

(I went to a church service for the first time in decades.)

It was not a "high society" event but a national Day of Remembrance. There were some amazing commemorations up and down the country. It was a bottom up affair too in villages to cities. On my high street a few shop owners had personal displays - it was very unusual.

Nothing to do with high society.

Randomusername01 · 16/11/2018 15:54

I think whats worse than them not being genuine (trolls, bots etc.) is that they were seriously genuine and think its something of upmost importance. And the worst thing is that these people probably vote on the basis of a coat that one man wore one time. ITS A FUCKING COAT. The UK is going to hell in a handbasket politically wise and these people are actually falling over themselves to critique a coat i imagine its the same people who clutch their pearls everytime Meghan Markle wears anything However Im Scottish, so meh let Labour and Torys run each other into the ground and hopefully Scotland will see sense and vote independence sooner rather than later.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 16/11/2018 15:56

Why can't the man show some bloody respect for the country and dress appropriately. Its like he is just sticking 2 fingers up to the UK all the time (and not in a good way)..

Andro · 16/11/2018 15:58

EggplantsForever - maybe...but I would have thought that daily mail audience or not, the majority of people would have been taught that some occasions have basic expectations of dress/behaviour/etc.

Firstworddinosaur · 16/11/2018 15:58

YANBU

VeryQuaintIrene · 16/11/2018 16:00

No need to be so snotty, Bertrand. It's true that it technically wasn't a donkey jacket, but it's gone down in history as that and that a lot of people got their knickers in a twist about it..

RedRoseReb · 16/11/2018 16:02

I personally don't care about his coat (or Michael Foot's , which was expensive I believe!)

But I'm willing to accept people might be irritated by the half hidden hood etc.

One half of everything is made up on the internet isn't it?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/11/2018 16:02

Remembrance is a very important and emotive subject for some people, and they genuinely believe that how you observe it matters as much as observing it - style as well as substance, if you will.

For these people, Corbyn’s anorak was a mark of disrespect for a very significant anniversary and the men and women it commemorates.

Just because we don’t share their views shouldn’t mean we can’t understand why they feel the way they do, and it doesn’t invalidate their feelings, IMO.

EggplantsForever · 16/11/2018 16:03

@Andro

Can you explain in what sense did Corbyn's coat deviate from those basic expectations, precisely?

Not trying to be argumentative. Just could you please articulate that?

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RedRoseReb · 16/11/2018 16:07

I'm sad to say it but imo Jeremy Corbyn has an irritating personality.

This may be inexplicable his supporters but I don't think you'd have to be pay all that many people to fake it. Maybe just one to get the ball rolling!

RangeRider · 16/11/2018 16:13

I think it's about respect for the people who have died and the remaining veterans. When you're representing your organisation at a national level you don't turn up wearing something that you could have on down the allotment later. I wouldn't turn up at church in shorts and flip-flops in a heatwave because that to me would be disrespectful. Or someone's funeral. It's just behaving in an appropriate way.
But if someone wants to pay me that would be great, thank you.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/11/2018 16:23

@EggplantsForever - I know there isn’t a written dress code for politicians attending Remembrance ceremonies, but I think it is pretty common knowledge that they should dress smartly, and for men, that means suit and overcoat - an anorak is a bit too casual.

JC has attended enough such occasions to know the accepted dress code, and has a suitable overcoat (he wore it last year) - which is why I am somewhat baffled by his decision not to wear it this year.

Catsandbootsandbootsandcats · 16/11/2018 16:24

My comment was real but I'm happy to be paid for any comments anyone wants me to make. Grin

CondomsLubricantAndFlapjack · 16/11/2018 16:27

part of the Daily Mail audience

You've just shown your true colours. Isn't it time the Momentum office closed for the weekend??

NotACleverName · 16/11/2018 16:51

I hope derxa is going to come back and explain how wearing an anorak is "virtue signalling" (a tired, played-out phrase if ever there was one.)

For these people, Corbyn’s anorak was a mark of disrespect for a very significant anniversary and the men and women it commemorates.

If people think a bloody anorak is a mark of disrespect they need to get a sodding grip. But I know that's too much to ask, given that the previous thread ran to nearly 1,000 posts (I don't know if it got filled, cba to look.)

ambereeree · 16/11/2018 16:55

I'm not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn, or labour, but I see nothing wrong with his anorak. It was wet weather and he's wearing clearly visible smart clothes under. Its not a cheap scruffy coat really is it?

derxa · 16/11/2018 17:01

I hope derxa is going to come back and explain how wearing an anorak is "virtue signalling" (a tired, played-out phrase if ever there was one.)
Grin It is a tired, played-out phrase but apt here I feel. He is signalling that he is different to all these establishment stuffed shirts. He is a man of the people whatever that is. Except he's not. I go to quite a lot of funerals and the men wear the same old black suit, tie and overcoat. They're there to pay their respects not to draw attention to themselves. If it's raining these good people just stand in the rain and get wet.

katseyes7 · 16/11/2018 17:09

Quite frankly, l don't give a toss what he wore. Even though he looked perfectly decently dressed to me.
What is more important to me is that he stayed behind talking to ordinary people, while the rest of them buggered off to lunch and drinks.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/11/2018 17:19

@katseyes7 - he could still have stayed and talked to the veterans if he had worn an overcoat - the two are not mutually exclusive.

katseyes7 · 16/11/2018 17:23

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius So could the others who were wearing 'overcoats' but they chose not to.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/11/2018 17:31

My point exactly - people are saying it is better that he wore an anorak and stayed to talk to people than that he wore an overcoat and left as if it was an either/or situation - and it wasn’t!

He could have worn an overcoat AND stayed to talk to the veterans - what he wore would not have affected his choice.

natwebb79 · 16/11/2018 17:37

Thing is, if he'd have worn a smarter posher coat people would be calling him a hypocrite for 'wearing expensive clothes when he bangs on about helping the poor' or similar. He can't bloody win.

Thymeout · 16/11/2018 17:40

I'm so fed up with this trope of JC nobly forgoing a posh lunch to talk to the ordinary people. It's part of his job, as Leader of the Opposition, to attend the reception to help entertain the guests, including the High Commissioners, all of whom, btw, were dressed up to the nines.

As a self-proclaimed internationalist, you'd think he'd welcome the chance to talk to the representatives of some of the poorest countries on the planet. But perhaps he's got something against the Commonwealth. It wouldn't surprise me.

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