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To ask any French speaker how I should address this email?

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OooohhDeer · 13/11/2018 18:38

Long story short. Just about to apply for a job (as many of you might know from my previous threads this is my favourite activity the past few weeks months)
Anyway I am not sure how to address the email to a hiring manager who is French. I know her name so it starts
'Dear Ms. ' but her name is bloody long and I don't speak French and it has a 'de' in in too and not sure if it should be included.
So basically her name is similar too
Elizabeth-May de Smith Johns

How do I address this email ?

Hope this makes sense. I just want to send it tonight then have a large glass of wine 😂

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SweetestThing · 13/11/2018 18:40

I would say that "de" is part of her surname and should be included. Like Amande de Cadenet, I'd address her as Ms de Cadenet.

tattychicken · 13/11/2018 18:41

How did she address you? If she used your first name, return the honour. Otherwise Ms de Smith Johns.

MumInBrussels · 13/11/2018 18:42

I'm not a native speaker, but if you're worried you might get it wrong, I reckon it's totally ok to just start with "Madame", rather than using her name.

But based on what you say her name is, I think she's Madame de Smith Jones. (The de is part of the surname, as I understand it.)

MumInBrussels · 13/11/2018 18:44

Never mind. My brain is dead. I thought you were writing in French! Dear Ms de Smith Jones, not Madame.

tattychicken · 13/11/2018 18:44

Not Madame. That assumes she's older and/or married. Neither of which you know. Ms is fine.

ScandiGirl10 · 13/11/2018 18:45

Depends on the company but I think addressing someone as “Mr” “Mrs” in a work scenario is pretty old school / a bit odd. Unless they have addressed you in the same manor first.

Ancienchateau · 13/11/2018 18:46

Are you sure she's a Ms because it's always okay to address a woman as Madame in French? As others have said call her Madame/Ms de Smith Johns. Always better to be formal with French people you don't know.

Ancienchateau · 13/11/2018 18:49

If she's French but working in a UK company in the UK then just address her as you would any other potential female employer.

SweetestThing · 13/11/2018 18:57

Is it always okay to address a woman as Mme in French? I didn't notice that when I lived there - admittedly a looong time ago!

makingmammaries · 13/11/2018 20:13

Yes, unless you know for a fact that she is both young and unmarried.

SweetestThing · 13/11/2018 20:26

To be fair, when I lived in France it was well before the days of email :)

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