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TeamSpirit · 08/11/2018 18:18

Why do english people call dinner for tea? What do you call tea then? Smile
Not trying to be funny - just want the story behind..

OP posts:
LanaorAna2 · 09/11/2018 11:33

London:

breakfast - pretty national, this one
lunch - midday meal
tea - coffee and biscuit OR cup of tea
supper - evening meal
dinner - evening meal in slightly better clothes or at restaurant

howdoI · 09/11/2018 11:33

Liverpool, breakfast, dinner , tea. Only posh people have lunch lol

SpuriouserAndSpuriouser · 09/11/2018 11:35

I'm from the home counties and it's always been breakfast, lunch and dinner/supper to me. Supper sounds quite casual to my ears, you go out for dinner but have supper at home.

I've only really heard people refer to dinner as "tea" when they are talking about a meal for children, otherwise tea is a drink.

BadgersBum · 09/11/2018 11:37

Purplelass it depends on how well I know them. If I know them well I'd be familiar with what time of day their dinner is scheduled. If not, I'd say "I'd love to! What time shall we meet?" ... and this would give me all the information I need. Grin

diddl · 09/11/2018 11:41

I call it tea because it is tea for me.

I have my dinner at lunchtime & something light in the evening that couldn't (imo) be called dinner.

Supper (to me) is a hot drink & biscuit before bedtime.

Childminder · 09/11/2018 11:41

If people say to me, see you after tea time, I assume it is after 3.00pm, not as they assumed after 6.00pm.

But on the other hand. as a childminder I serve 'tea' to children at 4.30pm, they don't have another meal when they get home, but have supper, which is just cereal, or toast and a milky drink.

They get tea at 3.30 in day nursery! Some children don't get anything to eat after that when they go home, and tea is very light in nursery.

I have breakfast, lunch and dinner.

A common phrase in this house is WFD? - what's for dinner?

Tinty · 09/11/2018 11:45

Breakfast, lunch and tea for me Shock
Although I'd go out for 'dinner' Confused

It is very confusing now you point it out. In my head in the evening, I think hmm what shall I cook for Dinner, then my DD asks, whats for Tea Mum Grin.

DarlingNikita · 09/11/2018 12:03

It's not just north and south, it's a class thing. I was raised largely in the south of England by working-class parents and we had breakfast, dinner and tea.

I live in That London now and have become middle-class to the extent that I say breakfast, lunch and dinner. And going out for or having someone over for tea means a cup of, and cake usually.

I don't say supper though. There are limits.

Eliza9917 · 09/11/2018 12:04

FannytheW0nderDog Thu 08-Nov-18 18:33:05
Oh dear this is sooo confusing for foreigners. Tea has three meanings 1. a warm drink 2. Afternoon tea with scones and sandwiches 3. Depending on which part of the country you live in, your evening meal.

And high tea - which is probably where this came from. High tea and afternoon tea are two different things.

"The drinking of tea not only became a social event for the upper classes, it altered the time and manner in which they took tea. Afternoon Tea became the bridge between meals because many wouldn't eat their evening meal until maybe 8pm. As such, Afternoon Tea became a 'mini meal' in itself.

This was all well and good for the upper classes, but the working classes ran to a different schedule and a different budget. Tea was still quite expensive at the time and the working classes could not afford to waste it on anything other than necessities. A wearied factory worker wouldn't arrive home until six in the evening, and when he did, he was famished! Thus, in the industrial areas of the UK (northern England and southern Scotland), the working classes evening meal evolved: high tea.

English High Tea usually involved a mug of tea, bread, vegetables, cheese and occasionally meat. Variations on high tea could include the addition of pies, potatoes and crackers.

So while Afternoon Tea was largely a social event for their upper class counterparts, high tea was a necessary meal in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. This traditional high tea still exists for some parts of the North and Scotland.

Why is it called 'high tea'?

A possible explanation why this type of meal was called high tea is the fact that it was eaten at a table. In comparison, Afternoon Tea was taken whilst seating in low, comfortable chairs or sofas. Of course, soon after, the upper classes developed their own variation and also called it 'high tea'. It was a meal that could be eaten when their servants were away or not available, as it was so easy to prepare. The upper class 'high tea' involved the amalgamation of Afternoon Tea and high tea, with the addition of pigeon, veal, salmon and fruit.

It is important to add that the Afternoon Tea menu served in the UK today is often referred to as high tea in many other parts of the world. Because of this some hotels, such as The Ritz in London, use the term 'High tea in London' to advertise their Afternoon Tea because a large proportion of their customers are from overseas.

Some venues do serve a special high tea menu, in addition to Afternoon Tea, which includes additional savoury items such as Welsh Rarebit, English muffins, pies or omelette."

afternoontea.co.uk/information/what-is-high-tea/

This bit

Some venues do serve a special high tea menu, in addition to Afternoon Tea, which includes additional savoury items such as Welsh Rarebit, English muffins, pies or omelette.

Might also answer the question raised the other day as to why some places have a gentleman's tea as well as afternoon tea - if this is what men had after working down the mine or somewhere.

BarbaraofSevillle · 09/11/2018 12:10

My dad might have eaten 'gentlemen's tea' type food after working down a mine, but would never have called it that. It was just tea, or breakfast or (midday) dinner because he worked shifts so was all over the place with food, sleep etc.

The food he took to work to eat while he was there was 'snap'.

I think gentlemen's tea is a hotel/cafe invention to cater for the sexist assertion that women like dainty sandwiches and cakes and men like pies. Savoury tea would be a better name for it.

PineappleTart · 09/11/2018 12:13

Breakfast, dinner & tea for me.

They're called school dinners not school lunches.

AleFailTrail · 09/11/2018 12:22

I was raised by my father who was from a VERY old middle class background, and was taught thusly:
Breakfast
Elevensies, a light snack, cold cuts etc
Luncheon
Afternoon tea, serves around half two to three, light sandwiches and tea
Dinner, the big meal
Supper, a light snack before bed.

Not that we ever did eat that much

Threewheeler1 · 09/11/2018 12:23

Tinty
I know, I've just realised I use both 'dinner' and 'tea' but the kids always ask "what's for tea?" (and start asking after breakfast, little gannets!).
But when I'm feeding the cats it's always a bang on the tin and "dinner!" hanging out the back door, even if it's morning Grin

sadsadsady · 09/11/2018 12:29

I'm in the States and Dh gets so confused. Especially as I call it 'dinner, tea or supper' depending on what it is and how I feel. 

purplelass · 09/11/2018 13:08

BadgersBum
Nice reply Grin

Lamona · 09/11/2018 13:28

I say
Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner/supper(main meal at 8ish) (I'm from the midlands )
DH is from N Wales and says
Breakfast, Lunch, Tea (main meal at 6ish) Supper (food eaten just before bedtime)

But I'll say tea if I'm talking to someone who says Tea. I think its context specific

TittyFahLaEtcetera · 09/11/2018 13:35

Raised in the SE, but lived up North for a bit.

For me it's always been

Breakfast
Lunch
Tea (either afternoon tea, or the smaller/lighter meal for little children at about 4:30-5pm)
Dinner
Supper

Obvs I don't have all those things every day! Blush But when I was young and had tea at 5pm, my Mum would offer me supper at 7:30 prior to bed time at 8. My DM is Welsh and said that's how it was always done when she was young.

diddl · 09/11/2018 13:39

"Breakfast, lunch and tea for me.
Although I'd go out for 'dinner'"

Same here-unless I'm going out for lunchGrin

bigKiteFlying · 09/11/2018 13:40

Grew up Midlands but live north and south as an adult.

Breakfast - first meal.

Lunch/dinner midday meal

tea - evening meal though could be dinner but that would usually be more formal meal.

Supper - very late meal - post 8pm time usdually after 10pm rarely earten by me - may be used by other family members to mean late tea.

High tea /tea - posh cake sandwich affair.#

elevenis - sanck between breakfast and midday

Elevenses also know as coffee and cake - though drinks may not be coffee and there may be no cake be anytime between 11 and 4.00pm.

One that threw me with DH realtives - snap - seems to be midday meal but also packed lunch or picnic.

tea is also a drink - but usually offered as a cup of or question of tea or coffee

I find it's usually obvious what people mean by context - in books or part of conversations.

apostropheuse · 09/11/2018 13:49

Things have changed over the years, but here are the terms I knew growing up:

Breakfast
Elevenses
Lunch
Afternoon tea
High tea
Dinner
Supper

Disclaimer: We didn't eat all of those meals regularly! Some we would eat at home, some when out shopping or on a day out and some at the aunty's house etc.

apostropheuse · 09/11/2018 13:51

High tea was a cooked meal, rather than the sandwiches, cakes and scones of an afternoon tea.

MrsStrowman · 09/11/2018 13:55

Breakfast , lunch and dinner here, tea is a hot drink, but when we were children we would have our 'tea' around 5:30/6 and mum and dad would eat dinner around 8/8:30 when DF got home from work. If I'm having a light meal in the evening it's usually because I've been out later than expected or don't feel like a full meal, I'd call that supper ( although DH thinks this is'posh' 🙄) , to me if tea refers to an evening meal is very early (I'm not an early dinner person) and usually for children. Afternoon tea however is a very different and delicious thing....

Thewheelsarefallingoff · 09/11/2018 13:57

From Norfolk and as a child we had:

Breakfast
Dinner (cooked meal)
Tea (usually cold)
Supper (bowl of cereal or buttered biscuitsGrin)

Now:
Breakfast
Lunch
Dinner
I would say it's as much an age thing as a regional thing.

adviceonthepox · 09/11/2018 13:59

Dinner is a hot meal doesn't matter what time of day. Lunch is a cold meal in the middle of the day and tea is a drink or the meal in the evening if it's cold or a lite meal such as beans on toast.

peachgreen · 09/11/2018 14:01

@RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime But if you have a hot meal at lunchtime surely you don't have another one in the evening?

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