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To tell them to fuck off!!

88 replies

Demisemi · 08/11/2018 14:02

We were recently issued with a section 21 from our landlord via letting agents giving us 2 months to leave our home that we have been in for 10 years.

The past two months have put immense pressure on my DH and I to try and find a suitable house for us and our 3 children. We eventually found somewhere by pure luck.

We are moving next week and had a phone call from our letting agents to say the landlord is now removing the property for sale, will be putting the property back up to rent and when would we be available tomorrow and over the weekend to let tenants have a look around.

I looked on the website and they've the letting price up at £90 more than what we currently pay!

AIBU to tell them to fuck off? I am so bloody angry!!!!!!

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Demisemi · 08/11/2018 14:03

Just for reference in the 10 years we've been here we've never missed a payment and have been good tenants without trouble. I can't believe they have done this to us

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DontWannaBeObamasElf · 08/11/2018 14:03

“We are unavailable as in the process of moving. We will vacate the property on (date) so viewings can be done after this date”

MrsReacher85 · 08/11/2018 14:04

You have no legal obligation to let anyone into the house, other than for repairs or emergencies. So, yep, tell them to go to hell!

Gizzygizmo · 08/11/2018 14:04

Of course your not being unreasonable... your busy until you move, and have no time to be in for anyone to look round Smile

dontalltalkatonce · 08/11/2018 14:05

when would we be available tomorrow and over the weekend to let tenants have a look around.

They want YOU to do their job? Fuck that. 'It's your job to let the property, not mine. I'm not an estate agent or your secretary so I have no need to inform you of my schedule'.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/11/2018 14:05

Tell them no, you are in the middle of packing and cleaning and it simply is not convenient, at any time.

You don't have to allow viewings, you can say no and they have to abide by that decision.

And remember to tell them that the rent gap situation is of their own making Smile

NonaGrey · 08/11/2018 14:06

I’d politely but firmly decline.,

Demisemi · 08/11/2018 14:06

She said that they have keys and will just let themselves in if not convenient. I explained that we have a dog (they know we do) who will not let them enter the property (Not true he's soft but still) and she said then we need to be there to let them in!

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Demisemi · 08/11/2018 14:08

Also is that legal what they have done? They have clearly issued the section 21 to get us out and some tenants in that would pay a higher rent

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LaurieFairyCake · 08/11/2018 14:08

They're not allowed in if you expressly tell them in writing - so email.

Walkerbean16 · 08/11/2018 14:08

i refused all viewings until we had moved. just say no.

dontalltalkatonce · 08/11/2018 14:09

she said then we need to be there to let them in!

'No, we don't. And you have no legal right to enter the property whenever you please other than for emergencies. But thanks for the warning. Allows me to make sure you don't just come in here and tramp all over the place. You can wait until we've moved out to do viewings.'

Fuck them. I'd actually change the lock barrels just to fuck them off. Or be in there with keys in the lock to they can't get in.

BruceAndNosh · 08/11/2018 14:10

You do not need to let them in.
I would consider changing the barrels on the locks then change them back when you leave.
You should use the replacement locks in your new place

Demisemi · 08/11/2018 14:10

The only problem I have is that they still haven't given us a reference for our new house. Not that I think it matters as it's all going ahead but I'm just worried that they will give us a rotten reference and the new landlords might pull out

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Sisgal · 08/11/2018 14:11

Yeh fuck them

BruceAndNosh · 08/11/2018 14:11

They are within their rights to terminate your tenancy so that they can charge more to new tenants

BruceAndNosh · 08/11/2018 14:12

Just explain to new landlord about potential poor references.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/11/2018 14:12

No, they cannot let themselves in unless it is an emergency. Tell them in writing that they do not have your permission.

It is entirely legal to s21 you for no reason, it is called a no fault eviction.

treeogal · 08/11/2018 14:15

That must be so frustrating and horrible especially considering you have three children. Did they ask you if you'd consider paying more rent? I am not sure that is actually legal?! I know when I was living abroad and renting there were tight rules that you can't be asked to leave so they can jack up the rent, I know because a building of flats tried and were held accountable and had to back down. Maybe ask CAB?

When you leave I'd also consider writing a letter to estate agent and/or landlord, put some time and emotional space between you before you write it, but letting them know it left a very foul taste and was unprofessional. The worst part was their poor communication in my eyes.

Good luck!

horizonglimmer · 08/11/2018 14:16

Honestly, they should change the law like they have in Scotland so that landlords can't do this. You can only give tenants notice to quit for certain legally defined reasons in Scotland under the new tenancies.

NorthernSpirit · 08/11/2018 14:17

It’s the landlords house, not yours. You’ve been issued a section 21 notice and been asked to leave. You have to vacate by the date stated in the notice or you can be taken to court. You’ve been given 2 months notice to leave.

If you have lived there 10 years, are are probably not paying market rates (hence the increase - which has nothing to do with you).

You don’t have to let people in for viewings but is it really that much of a hassle or are you just being difficult because you are annoyed?

You could be difficult. But why bother? Of course, the landlord could also be difficult in returning your deposit.

DeathyMcDeathStarFace · 08/11/2018 14:18

Allow viewings when you are in and tell prospective tenants what happened to you, give them a warning that it could happen to them.

Or tell the estate agent where to go and change the barrels of the locks/do something to prevent illegal access.

PlateOfBiscuits · 08/11/2018 14:19

They are pushing it and you absolutely are under no obligation to let them do viewings. It might be worth giving shelter a call if you’re unsure.

dontalltalkatonce · 08/11/2018 14:20

You could be difficult. But why bother? Of course, the landlord could also be difficult in returning your deposit.

Because she's busy packing to move and doesn't want strangers tramping round? The LL cannot withhold the deposit because he found the tenants difficult when they didn't kneel down and serve him.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/11/2018 14:23

I would give Shelter a call and see what they say about this matter.

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