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To think he should be accountable?

18 replies

Wasither · 07/11/2018 20:39

There's a guy I work with, and he gets away with everything.

He is close friends with his managers, which I think causes the issue.
He regularly talks loudly and inappropriately across the department. This includes very detailed information about his sex life, managers just roll their eyes and say can this be discussed later. Other members of staff would be disciplined for unprofessionalism.

He also regularly makes mistakes that could put people at risk (work for the nhs, mistakes have included documenting the wrong medicines for a patient, missing serious information regarding allergies, quite a few things).

He also often spreads confidential information around as workplace gossip. He has told people the reasons other people are on sick leave. He has also told people in the department about complaints against other members of staff (Which the staff member in question said they had only spoke to the manager about).

There have also been multiple occasions where he has promised to do work that he then doesn't do (discharges, giving medicines, speaking to patients/ relatives, documentation).

I personally have mentioned an issue to management once, and know of 3 colleagues that have mentioned other issues with this member of staff, but nothing is ever done. Management just say oh ok I'll speak to him, then send out a round robin email with a general reminder regarding professionalism in it.

Aibu to ask for advice how to deal with this? I have to work with him occasionally depending on my rota, and it makes work very difficult and not enjoyable.

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UpstartCrow · 07/11/2018 20:43

Is he the bosses son?
Can you get a customer to complain?

Jimmers · 07/11/2018 20:50

Do you have a whistleblowing policy? Most NHS organisations do, and you can report anonymously. We also have an incident reporting system (also with a anonymous reporting option) - submit an incident every time he dies something wrong, particularly the medication errors.

Wasither · 07/11/2018 20:52

No, not related at all crow

We do, but I don't really trust it to be anonymous jimmers. And due to his relationships with bosses I feel like it would cause problems for me if it was found out I reported iykwim

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ThisIsWhatItSoundsLike · 07/11/2018 20:58

Go to bosses above his friend, or boss of another area that isn't his friend?

iklboo · 07/11/2018 20:58

You should be protected under the Public Disclosure Act if you raised concerns. The NHS are pretty hot on it now, especially if there's a patient safety risk.

Wasither · 07/11/2018 21:01

It's really starting to affect me at work as well. I used to really enjoy my job and get on well with my bosses, but now I'm too nervous to tell them anything that I would prefer to be private because I know he will get told and the whole department will soon know.
I know that's an issue with management rather than him directly, but especially if the issue is about him it makes life difficult.

He has on more than one occasion said he would pass a message on to me and then not, so it looks like I'm not doing my job properly when it's something I wasn't aware of.
And a few of his documentation mistakes have affected me, as I either have to do his job again (meaning I either don't finish my work or have to rush it), or risk missing something and putting someone in danger.

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Wasither · 07/11/2018 21:05

I'm not sure who his higher bosses are. We work in slightly different areas.
I know this is possibly outing, but he's a pharmacy technician and I'm a pharmacist.
Me being able to do my job relies on his being done properly. He often just documents "patient states on no medication", and when I've gone to the patient they've been on methadone / epilepsy medicines / chemotherapy (real examples). Management don't seem to care and it bothers me as it could put patients in real danger

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iklboo · 07/11/2018 21:08

Is he admin or part of a professional body?

Alexandra2018 · 07/11/2018 21:09

It's abit like this where I am. He ll probably be your manager soon enough! Anything you say about him will be said directly to him

Lifeisabeach09 · 07/11/2018 21:15

Do you use Datix or some form of incident reporting software? Can you datix his mistakes? It's not anonymous but your manager will be less likely to ignore it.

Wasither · 07/11/2018 21:17

Not admin, yes registered professional body. Doubt they'd do anything without his managers doing anything first, and they won't as he's their friend.

Exactly Alexandra, well except possibly being my manager, due to the different jobs it isn't possible, and I am a higher pay band than him. So many people have left recently due to the atmosphere and culture, it's awful and I'm debating whether to leave myself. But I do love my job so don't really want to.

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Wasither · 07/11/2018 21:21

lifeisabeach we do have datix. But if nobody else puts in any issues (everyone says what's the point because nothing is ever done) will it look bad on me? Like I have some kind of personal issue?

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atomicnotsoblonde · 07/11/2018 21:21

If you are knowingly allowing him to do this, not reporting it, nor taking any action to stop it, then to my mind you are as accountable as him if something goes wrong.

Please report, use your trust incident reporting mechanisms, your clinical director, your freedom to speak up guardian, under whistleblowing, to HR iro competence. There are lots of ways to do this either anonymously or not. As long as you are acting in good faith and not maliciously, you are legally protected.

iklboo · 07/11/2018 21:22

No you can contact his professional body without going through management. Check their website for advice and help about your protection.

Racecardriver · 07/11/2018 21:23

So whistleblow. He’s putting lives at risk isn’t he? And management are complicit.

Wasither · 07/11/2018 21:26

atomic I've spoken to him directly, my managers, his managers and redone the work myself to make sure it is correct. Other than a general email sent to everyone saying "be professional, check medical notes and dont rely on the word of the patient" nothing has had any affect

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Wasither · 07/11/2018 21:26

That should say nothing has been done, not had any affect

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Lifeisabeach09 · 07/11/2018 21:27

I don't think so-not with the Datix team anyway. Your managers, possibly.
The thing is if you notice he has done, say a drug error, you can only datix about that event and what you witnessed. What everyone else does (or does not do) in terms of incident reporting is down to them. It's possible you may be able to do it anonymously-depends on the Trust and the datix software.

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