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To ask this about gender?

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onefishtwofishthreefish · 04/11/2018 22:23

Why would a parent/s choose not to assign a gender to their newborn baby?

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minivampsmakebloodwork · 04/11/2018 22:25

I'll bite! Why do you need to assign a gender? Babies generally have a sex which can be identified at birth.

How they choose to identify as they get old enough to understand the concept is up to them.

Hedgehogblues · 04/11/2018 22:26

What difference does it actually make to a baby which gender they are assigned?

onefishtwofishthreefish · 04/11/2018 22:32

It came up at the end of the Louis Theroux programme. Mentioned that one of the couples named their child Elliot and chose not to assign a gender to the baby. Obviously it's sex is either a boy or girl but I was curious as to the statement they made.

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Fwend · 04/11/2018 22:32

Genders are not assigned. Sex is, however, recorded.

Hedgehogblues · 04/11/2018 22:39

Genders are asigned though aren't they? If someone has a female child they are expected to dress it in certain colours and give it certain toys. Just because something is a social construct or a social nonsense doesn't make it not real

onefishtwofishthreefish · 04/11/2018 22:43

So if Elliot, for example, is a boy would the parents go out of their way to hide that fact? And how would they approach using the pronouns he or she?

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Fwend · 04/11/2018 22:45

You're right; it is social nonsense. And I think that does make it unreal.

Not all female born babies (to use your example) will be told to wear a certain colour, or play with those toys, or want to marry a male person. "Gender assignment" in this way therefore just becomes the imposition of stereotypes, which is very different to sex being recorded on a birth certificate.

Hedgehogblues · 04/11/2018 22:45

I presume they would use gender neutral pronouns?

whiteroseredrose · 04/11/2018 22:49

Sex is fixed and in DNA. Sex is recorded on a Birth certificate. It says sex not gender. That's why I don't get why Birth Certificates can be changed nowadays.

Birth certificates are issued when a baby is registered. So presumably the sex is on there regardless of what parents think or don't think.

Hedgehogblues · 04/11/2018 22:49

Gender assignment" in this way therefore just becomes the imposition of stereotypes, which is very different to sex being recorded on a birth certificate.

Right I completley agree with this bit but we do still overwhelmingly live in a culture where those stereotypes are imposed more often than not to create the whole idea of gender.

Gileswithachainsaw · 04/11/2018 22:50

More nonsense. Sex is recorded.dress how the hell you like. A baby grow is a baby grow .

By denying the sex you 're enforce the ge get stereotypes so defeats object anyway.

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