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To think this is probably stress and anxiety? (Please help I'm not in a good place )

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nattingherz · 04/11/2018 12:18

I've been a mess for a while now.
I am getting therapy.
I get PVCs (which a extra heartbeats)
Had all the checks and came back my heart is 100% healthy and that it is anxiety /stress related.
This morning I woke up and checked my phone and I had a missed call ..rang back and it was the ambulance service saying my gran was rushed into hospital.
My heart literally started skipping beat after beat from that moment ..I was pacing the floor,I was shouting and couldn't control myself.
It went on for 6 hours.
Then stopped.
I had convinced myself I must have a serious undiagnosed disease but it can't be coincidence it started a min after the ambulance service rang me?

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TheDuchessOfSex · 04/11/2018 12:21

It sounds like classic anxiety, you poor thing! Your mind is playing tricks on you. It sounds like a type of panic attack.

LuckyKitty13 · 04/11/2018 12:23

I didn't want to leave this unanswered. I'm so sorry you're having a tough time. Have you had all the checks recently? If you have and the doctors have said it's stress related, could they suggest some medication of talking therapies to try and help your anxiety?

It's perfectly normal to feel anxious over an unwell relative, so don't beat yourself up - how is she doing now?

You can get through this, and we are here to support you. If you feel this is more extreme than normal for you then I'm sure the doctor wouldn't mind seeing you again, if you feel that would give you reassurance? Then signpost you to other services if needed?

Thinking of you - keep posting if it helps you stay relaxed.

chocolateworshipper · 04/11/2018 12:23

Have you talked to your GP about whether medication would help you? Are you being taught mindfulness / relaxation techniques as part of your therapy?

nattingherz · 04/11/2018 12:39

Had the results from my heart scan last week saying I have a perfect heart and the cardiologist said hope this reassures me (clearly not )
The Holter monitor showed PVCs but they are benign and not caused by a heart issue.
Likely by cortisol /adrenaline (as I'm ridiculously stressed and anxious )
I've only had 1 apt so far and I take diazepam as and when 2 mg
Today 2mg didn't stop them skipped beats at all

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nattingherz · 04/11/2018 12:40

I've been scared to go out lately and I know my anxiety is through the roof.
I spent the last two nights crying all the time.

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PinkBobbleHatAndGloves · 04/11/2018 12:43

Sorry to hear you’re going through this. Given you’ve had the absolute all clear from a cardiologist then it sounds like classic anxiety.

I found this book to be quite helpful:
www.amazon.co.uk/Overcoming-Health-Anxiety-behavioural-techniques-ebook/dp/B003MQLZHQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&keywords=health+anxiety&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1541335278&sr=1-1

PinkBobbleHatAndGloves · 04/11/2018 12:45

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ItsLikeRainOnYourWeddingDay · 04/11/2018 12:45

I think if you've convinced yourself you have a heart issue it can be petrifying. Even after reassurance from doctors because you are the one who can still feel it. Know what I mean?

I'm sorry about your gran and I think maybe your reaction was more than it should be but, you've had a really hard time and sometimes we have these moments when everything comes crashing down. Been there. It's horrible.

I would concentrate on some me time. Look into mindfulness or another relaxing app. They do work. Good luck.

HundredMilesAnHour · 04/11/2018 12:45

Have you discussed being referred for CBT with your GP? I think it might help. Your reaction to your gran going into hospital sounds unusually strong. Pacing, shouting and not being able to control yourself for 6 hours is not a normal reaction. You can't change events that happen but you can change how you manage your reaction to them and CBT can help you with that. It sounds like you need more help than just taking medication. You need to learn coping behaviours. Have you looked into this? I think you should.

nattingherz · 04/11/2018 12:51

It's cbt I'm getting now.
Yesterday I couldn't leave the house and I was terrified to stand up or go to the toilet in fear of starting the PVCs off.
I've been googling heart problems 24/7 and forums and convinced myself this is my life forever.
I've had this in 2012 with the PVCs and was given the all clear back then and it went away.
I worry if I hear a ambulance that my dad has hurt himself and that's who it's for.
I have the terrified feeling as soon as I wake up.
I don't understand how they can start and stop like that.
I've had panic attacks walking outside and felt like I had to run home.

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SleepWarrior · 04/11/2018 12:54

Your anxiety is through the roof and your body is responding to it. If feels awful and uncomfortable because, I guess, that's the function of anxiety. To make you avoid/leave whatever is causing the stress. You feel twitchy and flighty and on high alert. The trouble is this isn't a tiger or a rumble that might be an earthquake - it's chronic and (I'm guessing) harder to put your finger on one reason why.

Have you tried any meditation apps or ways to calm yourself? I have gone through something similar related to anxiety, and the health anxiety that it triggers just feeds the problem. Knowing it was just me causing my symptoms (unintentionally) made it a lot easier to talk myself down in the midst of it. I would say things along the lines of "this is really unpleasant but there's nothing actually wrong, it just feels awful. The more calm you can be now, the quicker it will pass". And then I would make myself do something like tidying up whilst listening to an interesting podcast or music. Heavy distraction so I couldn't focus on my heart and breathing. It still might last an hour of so but that was better that a whole day or more. It made such a difference. Also tackling the root of the anxiety, if you can.

Flowers it's going to be fine.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 04/11/2018 13:08

Sounds of your body is continually on fight or flight mode continuously. Hopefully CBT will help.

Please look at mindfulness exercises... You can find them online or else apps... Headspace or buddhify

nattingherz · 04/11/2018 13:15

I didn't even realise that was possible.
I thought fight or flight only lasted 20 mins then passed.
I think that's why I tell myself it's more than anxiety as I assumed after 20 mins it was gone.

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Liojhcdst · 04/11/2018 13:27

It's definitely anxiety stress etc. Easier said than done but mindfulness, cbt self reassurance that it will pass and it's fine are good places to start. I struggle with this and palpitations, speeding heart beat at bedtime when I'm lying awake trying to get back to sleep . Blood pressure at docs was alarming they wanted to get an ambulance till I convinced them I have white coat syndrome, and my BP was fine when I did it at home afterwards. All negative thoughts and concerns flood your mind and swim around with anxiety like your brain is actually searching for something to stress about. It's learning to manage it and take a step away and look at situations from a different angle. Accepting the symptoms and understanding it will get easier. Do you have a partner / friend to talk it through with?

zebra · 04/11/2018 13:40

I regularly suffer with an irregular heart beat. It started about 12 years ago. I had all the tests going, and was also declared perfectly healthy. Mine feels like my heart is missing a beat (apparently it's not it's the beat before coming in very slightly early), or I just feel it bumping and fluttering all over the place. It can be on and off for quite some hours. I can go months with nothing, and then go through a spell of it happening quite often. It happens mostly when I'm stressed out, or when I'm ill. After all the tests mine was put done to anxiety, and having not yet keeled over I have learnt to trust that is the case, which does help. I hope you feel better soon.

FloofyDoof · 04/11/2018 13:40

I'd ask about propranolol. It is very good at easing the physical symptoms of panic (palpitations, breathing, sweating in my case), which I found helped me to be able calm myself down, because I wasn't dealing with the physical bit. There's a breathing exercise that I found helped too, I think it's called 7/11 breathing.

House4 · 04/11/2018 13:51

Lots of good suggestions on here but another is exercise. This is so important. Do you get any? Can you make sure you get regular exercise? This will massively help both physically and mentally along with everything else.
Please know that whenever you panic you will be ok and it will pass eventually. Reassure yourself of this every time no matter how many times you need to.

nattingherz · 04/11/2018 14:06

Zebra -that is exactly what I have.
Premature beats.
They feel horrible but apparently "normal"
Anxiety /stress seems to make my heart go nuts

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nattingherz · 04/11/2018 14:07

House4- I used to love to go for long walks /jogs but with these beats I'm terrified and also because I'm scared to be outside I haven't been doing much.
Walking into town and the minimum

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nattingherz · 04/11/2018 14:07

I tried propranolol but I don't think it helped
Still had the PVCs and it made me lightheaded

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nattingherz · 04/11/2018 14:08

I have had months of going through tremendous stress ..maybe this is my body saying enough is enough

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Fooferella · 04/11/2018 14:11

I used to get this. It didn't seem to have any rhyme or reason. It took a while but I got on top of my anxiety (mostly) through cbt and antidepressants. Hang in there, it WILL get better. I know how it feels to have anxiety about being anxious on top of thinking I'm going crazy or possibly suffering from an incurable disease that the doctors missed.

mimibunz · 04/11/2018 14:29

So sorry about this OP. This is classic panic attacks, and they can indeed mimic heart problems and attacks. You feel a cold terror like you’ve never felt before, you stay at home on your sofa, cry, and get told repeatedly that you are physically fine. Can you talk to your GP about meds available to help you cope? Flowers

UsedtobeFeckless · 04/11/2018 14:42

It's going to be fine.

I have this, heart just jumps every so often. I've had loads of tests and my heart is fine - it's just stress/anxiety. Try to stay off google as it really doesn't help! ( l know it's hard - one of my anxiety reactions is to try and find out everything about whatever it is that l'm currently a tizz about, but if you've got health anxiety the internet's not your friend - you just feed the flames! )

As a previous poster said, if it was serious you'd have keeled over by now ( l use this to calm myself down too - it's weirdly comforting )

CBT will help, and breathing, exercise and mindfulness, and telling yourself over and over it's just your hormones getting their wires crossed.Flowers

Bombardier25966 · 04/11/2018 14:42

Haven't you posted about this before OP, multiple times? You have health anxiety if I remember correctly...

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