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AIBU to feel that I was online groomed? *triggering potentially*

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leostar1994 · 01/11/2018 12:35

I just want to start by saying that this might be a triggering topic for some.

I haven’t posted on here before but have been reading for a while and feel like this is a place where I can speak about this openly and seek opinion.

This all happened about ten years ago when I was 14. I was on a music online forum and there was a 19 year old boy on there at the time who used to always troll me / take the mickey out of anything I posted. One day I messaged him asking him what his problem was and to stop and he agreed we should “turn over a new leaf and start again” and he gave me his MSN Messenger email address so that we could chat on there.

This started off fairly innocuous. We would just talk about music and shared interests, but then he started flirting with me and complimenting me excessively. Looking back, I think I thought this was a compliment at the time but he eventually coerced and encouraged me to begin the first of many instances of performing sexual acts on myself on webcam. During these, he would phone me and tell me what to do each time and I would always hear him “finish”. Afterwards, he would always tell me that I couldn’t tell anybody about these instances. I just thought at the time it was because he wanted to be private about it but since growing older I’ve realised that it was probably because he realised that it was wrong. Sometimes I try to protest and say I didn’t want to but he would keep pushing me to do it and I really didn’t want to get trolled again or be “in his bad books” again so I kept doing it each time.

He would often meet up with other people from the music forum we were on and he told me that he had slept with one of the other (of age) girls on there and had really “wished it was me”. I’m not sure how I felt about that at the time really.

We met in person eventually as he got tickets to go to a gig in London and asked me to go with him. My parents didn’t pick up that anything “strange” was going on and so they said yes and that I could go. I really wish they had just said no. He touched me while we were there inappropriately by pushing his hands down my jeans. I freaked out and left the concert and got the train home.

He apologised to me by text a couple of days later, through which we had no contact. We continued talking as normal and a few weeks later he went completely silent for a couple of days. I found out from someone else on the music forum that he had had a car accident and that he was now blind and suffering from memory loss. We lost touch due to this as I was young and didn’t really know how to handle this or what to say. His MSN and Facebook accounts disappeared and I didn’t hear from him for years.

When I was 18, 6 years ago, I got a friend request from him on Facebook. He reached out to me to apologise for everything that he did to me. He said he remembered some of it but not all due to the memory loss but that what he did remember didn’t show him in the best light and he regrets it now. I told him OK, he then kept trying to call me and then left me several messages asking me to call him...one of them said he wanted me to talk sexually to him again. Clearly he wasn’t sorry and so I deleted and blocked him and have had no further contact.

As I have gotten older, this has all played on my mind somewhat. I think I freaked when I got to the age of 19 myself and realised that it wasn’t necessarily normal to be attracted to school age teens. I certainly wasn’t myself! I realised how young that is and how easily influenced I was at that time.

I’ve confided in friends close to me who all say to me that I had been groomed and abused. Work recently sent me on an NSPCC Course regarding Child Abuse and it really triggered me because the “signals” of online abuse and grooming were all there.

It was after this that I was stupid enough to google his name and realise that he now is a DJ on local radio where he lives. I’m not sure why but that made me feel strange.

Anyway, AIBU to feel that I was groomed? Was I just being a stupid teenager? It plays on my mind often and I feel guilt about it all.

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Alfie190 · 01/11/2018 12:49

Yes it was grooming / abuse. You were underage and he of adult age. Sorry I don’t know what else to say about it or have any advice to offer and don’t want to say the wrong thing. Didn’t want to read and run though.

MagicMix · 01/11/2018 12:51

No, you were not a stupid teenager. Your feelings are completely valid and I absolutely agree with your analysis of his behaviour and what happened to you.

I had a few near misses on MSN and internet chatrooms back in my early adolescence - it never went as far as it did for you but mostly because I 'chickened out' rather than because I consciously knew that something was wrong. I didn't understand what was happening at the time but I look back and I can clearly say: "Wow that was pretty fucked up". The fact that young teenagers don't have the maturity and experience to understand what is going on is exactly why they are targeted. Children are inherently vulnerable to this kind of thing.

Confusedbeetle · 01/11/2018 12:51

Yes you were groomed, and sexually abused with the web cam stuff. You should take some professional advice and may need to take this further to prevent him abusing other young girls. He will not stop unless someone does. Try NSPCC or Barnados ot the Childline number

Blanchedupetitpois · 01/11/2018 13:04

That is absolutely grooming and abuse and none of it is your fault - you were a child and he is a predator. I’m so sorry that you went through that experience.

BasilFaulty · 01/11/2018 13:08

You were groomed and then abused. I would think even the 'being mean' to you thing was just a ploy as well and part of his MO.
Flowers Flowers

leostar1994 · 01/11/2018 14:30

@BasilFaulty I did wonder the same looking back...seemed like a way to manipulate the situation?

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BasilFaulty · 01/11/2018 15:26

I think it probably was OP. I'm so sorry you went through that.

RedFallLeaf · 01/11/2018 16:11

Yanbu - It really wasnt your fault. You werent a silly teen or naive. Someone older took advantage. That's not ok.
I hope you're ok x

leostar1994 · 01/11/2018 16:16

He would do things like "let's play a game and if you lose then you have to do a forfeit". Then he would make me take my clothes off or do things. He'd tell me I was beautiful etc etc so at the time I'd feel a mixture of shame and flattered. It was all quite obscure and I still feel shame about it all, even after all these years. He told me that I was a 9.9/10 and that he wanted to be with me but that the age difference made that difficult. It makes me sick.

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Tartsamazeballs · 01/11/2018 16:25

You should take some professional advice and may need to take this further to prevent him abusing other young girls. He will not stop unless someone does. Try NSPCC or Barnados ot the Childline number

It's not OPs responsibility if the bastard continues to abuse people. Please don't place that responsibility on a victim of his abuse, reporting something like this can be emotionally damaging if you're not feeling up to it.

leostar1994 · 01/11/2018 18:35

@Tartsamazeballs I think I'd feel weird having to rehash it all and report it, as bad as that sounds.

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RedFallLeaf · 03/11/2018 11:40

Alot of police have online reporting tools you could copy and paste what youve written here. Just add his name, date, location.

gottastopeatingchocolate · 03/11/2018 16:55

So sorry, OP. You are NBU - you were groomed.

You say that the NSPCC course was triggering for you - do not hesitate to get confidential support if you feel affected by what you have been through. Google what is available in your area for people who have been sexually assaulted. They support people whether the abuse happened now or in the past.

These things can sometimes catch up on you emotionally. If you feel you need support, seek support.

Weedsnseeds1 · 04/11/2018 23:09

Was he actually 19 when contacting you?
Or was that part of the " persona" ?

leostar1994 · 05/11/2018 13:11

@Weedsnseeds1 No, he was actually 19.

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Alaria4 · 05/11/2018 13:24

Sorry this happened to you OP
You were groomed online but you should definitely not feel shame.

You are not responsible for what happened what so ever.
It was not your fault

Seek professional help if you need to - it can do wonders for some people. I think you are incredibly brave for opening up about your awful experience and you seem to have processed and understood it for what it was.

I'm around your age and had a few similar experiences but it never got further then the chats.
Flowers

leostar1994 · 13/11/2018 20:50

Thanks everyone that replied.

I just wanted to circle back and say that I have had some therapy where I wrote a letter to him, one that would never be sent. It helped me to get rid of some of the resentment and shame that I feel.

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