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What would you think of a man who did this?

72 replies

CS12345 · 31/10/2018 07:44

Wrote a book with a gratuitous solo sex scene in it of an underage teenage girl? Fwiw, man is middle aged and it's his only book.

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katiegoestoaldi · 31/10/2018 07:45

I'd think he was an absolute creep, ugh!!

DailyMailWankers · 31/10/2018 07:46

What book?

icelollycraving · 31/10/2018 07:47

Was it published or one of those books that people pay to have published?

pisner · 31/10/2018 07:48

I'd worry what's going on in his head

CS12345 · 31/10/2018 07:49

Self published.

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RatUnholyRolyPoly · 31/10/2018 07:49

Was it, um, necessary for the plot??

MIdgebabe · 31/10/2018 07:50

Might depend on the issues addressed in the book

dudsville · 31/10/2018 07:51

I'd presume it turned him on and that would turn me off him.

icelollycraving · 31/10/2018 07:51

I’d be finding him really grim. Teenage as in 18 or as in 13? If this is done one close to you, I’d raise my concern. If it’s self published, hopefully no one will read it.

icelollycraving · 31/10/2018 07:54

Oh just seem it’s underaged. I would be feeling a bit sick in honesty.

CS12345 · 31/10/2018 07:54

No, not necessary. Totally gratuitous. 14 year old. Book certainly won't make the best sellers list.

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Iaimtomisbehave1 · 31/10/2018 07:56

Really depends on the plot. Was it necessary to move the story forward, develop a character, then the audience against a character, confront important issues etc?

Terrible actions shouldn't be kept out of storytelling. If he wrote it for his own pleasure, then that's another discussion but as part of a novel... I'm not sure if it's wrong or not. Novels include rape, murder, abuse... How is this different? The character usually gets their punishments and seeing the actions helps get the reader to where they need to be.

Evilspiritgin · 31/10/2018 07:57

I would feel the same as if a woman had wrote it Envy not envy

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 31/10/2018 07:59

I would assume he has a sexual interest in underage girls and find him pretty repugnant to be honest.

CS12345 · 31/10/2018 08:07

Iaimto - totally gratuitous and not integral in any way to the plot but I get your point about abuse, murder etc. If someone writes a murder novel, it doesn't mean that they're about to go and kill someone. This just feels different somehow. It's such a taboo subject.

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ShatnersWig · 31/10/2018 08:08

I think it depends hugely on the nature of the story, the precise age of the girl (in this case 14) etc. It's no use pretending that a considerable number of girls under the age of 16 don't have sex or don't masturbate.

But most self-published stuff is totally shit.

zippey · 31/10/2018 08:13

Plenty of books cover plenty of subject matters. The books Lolita and IT are two I can think of which have plot lines of teenage sexuality.

Do people who write murder mystery’s or violent novels mean they are violent themselves? Would it make a difference if the writer was a woman writing a gratituos sex scene?

KateAdiesEarrings · 31/10/2018 08:15

Writers are told not to think about people judging them for writing swear words, sex scenes, etc. So I woudn't assume one scene in a book was indicative of a problem iyswim but I'd probably judge it on context, how it was written etc

Aeroflotgirl · 31/10/2018 08:32

That would be a right put off, no way.

Firesuit · 31/10/2018 08:33

It's unreasonable to ask people to judge this out of context. The context is the book as a whole. Even if you cut and pasted the exact words of the scene, that in isolation would be a different thing than the same words appearing once in a 300 page story.

dontalltalkatonce · 31/10/2018 08:39

I'd think he was pretty rank and creepy.

longwayoff · 31/10/2018 08:39

Oh that, would be original, never been done before, but of course its all in context and not remotely for the purpose of titillation . . Etc

longwayoff · 31/10/2018 08:42

So many male writers appear to write with one hand down their trousers. Too many to enumerate.

Missingstreetlife · 31/10/2018 08:44

Why are you asking?

artemisdubois · 31/10/2018 08:54

CS12345 has already said that the scene was gratuitous, unnecessary and 'not integral in any way to the plot'. Assuming that is true (since there's not much point assuming otherwise and still being involved in the thread), I'd think the writer was a creep.

It would absolutely be different if the writer was a woman, since she would be a lot more likely to be writing from a point of personal lived experience, rather than imagining in great detail the sexuality of an underage somebody who is necessarily not them.

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