to ask... If you're comfortably off and don't buy organic / biodegradable nappies etc...

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Why not?

Not trying to be goady, just wondering.

I know one couple like this - very comfortable indeed (and I know this for certain), buy the cheapest value meat etc, and buy pampers / buggies so not a cost saving. I think they don't believe in climate change /don't care about animal welfare. Fair enough, their choice.

However if you are comfortably off and don't buy organic and biodegradable, what is your reasoning?

Just wondering... No real reason

How do you define comfortably off? Do you mean money no object? Because comfortably off parents might have to stretch to afford school fees or childcare for three, and so try to keep other costs down.

People have different priorities.

The price shopping can't be more than £100 difference per week, so that's £5k net per year

Jesus how much do people spend on nappies if that’s just the difference between organic and non-organic? I wouldn’t spend £5k on nappies full stop, let alone an extra £5k over and above what I was already paying, just to have organic. And I am pretty well off, but I will never be so well off that I have £5k to burn.

I’ve probably spent £500 on cloth nappies over the past two years (I buy new, and we made a couple of expensive mistakes when he was a newborn). Plus an extra £20pcm on the electric bill since he was born (not all of that will be nappies though, I’m in the house a lot more). Water bill hasn’t gone up. Nothing like £5k a year

So why I’m not really your target demographic, no fucking way would I ever spend £5k a year on nappies unless I absolutely had to. And I imagine I am not alone in that.

We did use beaming baby biodegradable nappies and nappy bags - they were ordered on the Internet and we had no leaks or nappy rash. (We also used cloth for about six months overall but found disposables much more convenient in lots of specific circumstances so ended up just using them all the time)

I just buy what they sell in the shop closest to me. I have no idea if they're biodegradable. Between working and my children my mind is pretty much always on other things and to be honest, for better or for worse convenience is my priority. I just grab whagevers closest and cheapest.

We are comfortable I suppose...
I’m non dS2 and using cloth, love them, only an extra two washes for week, I chuck clothes in with them aswel (usually DS food stained clothes), they come off his bum and put in a wet bag. Reusable liners to keep the wet off his bum. It’s mega easy, and I love it. Yes the outlay was heavy at the start but got a lot in real nappy week with some good offers. I do use disposables at night though and use pampers baby dry. I tried Kit and Kin last week but they leaked and his skin was wet in the morning. I’ve tried Naty with DD1 and found the same.
I also use reusable wipes and did with dS1 aswell, again easiest thing ever and so much more effective than disposable wipes.

I don’t buy organic anything

Jesus how much do people spend on nappies if that’s just the difference between organic and non-organic? I wouldn’t spend £5k on nappies full stop, let alone an extra £5k over and above what I was already paying, just to have organic. And I am pretty well off, but I will never be so well off that I have £5k to burn

I assumed that was the difference between shopping in Aldi/supermarket value and buying small scale/ethical/organic/bio degradadable products.

To be honest, the difference is probably more than that (some things seem to cost 3, 5 or 10x as much - just look at all the 'cling film' alternatives that have emerged - £20 for a few pieces of beeswax sheeting. It would probably take me about 10 years or more to spend £20 on cling film.

There's also the time factor. You can buy everything you need in a supermarket in one go. Sourcing ethical products will involve multiple trips/orders plus the time taken to wash things like reusable nappies/food wrap. People either don't have the time, or don't want to use it that way.

The advantage of “eco” nappies is that they might degrade faster in landfill (if they’re not in a bin liner). Since my residual waste goes off to an incinerator to be burnt for power that’s completely irrelevant to me - it would be literally burning money.