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RJP2032 · 25/10/2018 13:27

So my girlfriend and I were together 3 years. Most of it was very happy, usual kind of arguments that flared up sometimes , but probably like with most couples. Anyway, we got to the point where the arguments became more common and we got to breaking point. It was not working for either of us at the end. A few weeks after breaking up I then felt that I could have been better in certain ways and the pain of losing her did make me realise how much I loved her. (we had never had a break before and we lived together so I never really quite appreciated how much she added to my life). I saw room for improvement on my side... for that I am very regretful. But there were problems both sides, and she will admit that she is not easy! Anway.....I apologised after we broke up and said that I am sorry and I would like a chance because it has hit me like a steam train and I love her absolutely and think we could work our issues out. She said she is not ready and does not think it will work. Then for the next few months I was in agony but we still text each other most days, met each other, and everytime I thought we were getting closer she would say that she needed more time and couldnt see us being a couple 'right now', etc. But she would invite me for drinks etc or we would go out. It then would get to the point that I thought..... if are getting on this well, and the pressure of living together has taken some of the intensity out, then why not give it another go? But then she would say, she cant see us being together right no, she doesn't think it will for atm but in the future... who knows. I gave absolute space a couple of times but only for 2-3 weeks and then we would both start texting again and want to meet. Well, anyway, after about 3 months she said she didnt love me anymore, I had been out on a couple of dates to try and occupy myself when we broke up but it was too soon. After she said she didnt love me I tried to move on and start dating. I met someone who actually asked if I wanted to go on holiday with her (I had lots of holiday left to take at work but no one to go with), she seemed nice, easy going and friendly, so I said I will think about it (I am not normally spontaneous but I felt that I needed to change a few things about myself and it would at least provide a useful distraction and perhaps a fun time). We dated a few times and then my ex started sending mixed signals again and I felt we were getting closer, we went out a few times but then she started to draw away again. I could not work out what was going on! Then she said again that she didnt love me and to move on. So I decided to book that holiday. I then saw her with another guy and at first she denied dating but then said she had been seeing him for a month or so and he was funny and nice. I then said "I wish you had told me that some time ago but I wish you well, I think you should have given me a second chance before starting something new, and not tell me you need time and space and then start seeing someone else" (paraphrased). I asked if she wanted to pick up her stuff that was still at mine if there is no hope for us, then she said she does not know what to think do or say and she is confused and needs space and time. I was not very happy giving space and time whilst she continues seeing someone else! I then said a decision needs to be made, "you are going on holiday for 3 weeks so think about it and then let me know". I told her that I was seeing someone too but that I love her and want us to be together. So please think about it and let me know. she said she would think about it but she cant see us being together ATM. She then asked if I was going on holiday with the new girl I was seeing (she knew I was going to Italy and once she found out the girl I am seeing is italian - she put 2 and 2 together). I said yes, and if you decide you will give me a chance and love me then let me know. She then got very annoyed at me saying that I have been messing with her head by saying I want another chance and how much I love her and all the time I have a plan B (this is 5-6 months post break up). She was very annoyed I arranged to go to Venice and Rome because I was resistant during our relationship to go to these places. I explained that 1) I have changed a bit with my reluctance to travel and I was never that bad anyway 2) i would have liked to go with her if she had given me a second chance 3) it doesn't change the way I feel about her, I still love her and want a second chance but I cant just put my life on hold whilst she says she is confused and sleeps with someone else.

I dont think it is entirely wrong or contradictory to tell my ex i love her a lot but at the same time try and make progress and live my life. I wasnt stopping her seeing this guy. So yeah, my view is that we have both acted fairly irrationally perhaps. I started seeing someone else when I thought there was no hope, but then she kept sending the odd bit of hope for a future chance, that I knew may or may not ever happen. She is annoyed because she thinks I have messed with her head by saying how much I love her but all the time having a Plan B option Its been 5-6 months, surely that's enough time for her to make a decision and yes, I had started dating because if she turns round after 4-8 months and tells me without any doubt or later inconsistency, that its over, then I will have just sat there with my life on hold. Whats your views??

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HopefullyAnonymous · 25/10/2018 13:31

I don’t know about the ex but you’re being very u fair to this new person you’ve started seeing. You and your ex sound as bad as each other, a total pair of hypocrites ant better off apart.

RJP2032 · 25/10/2018 13:34

I told this new girl that I am not looking for a relationship atm and its just fun, and she knows I am trying to get over my ex. But I agree, I probably am not being as fair as I could or should have been. I think we are as bad as each other, but I think she is the hypocrite. I am not getting angry at her. I am saying she has done something similar so has no right to get angry at me if she messes me around for 6 months. Anyway, I appreciate you reading it - thanks.

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Hidillyho · 25/10/2018 13:37

I think you both need a clean break. It doesn’t sound like either of you are doing each other any favours at the moment by staying in contact. If you want to stay in contact then both need to accept that it will be as friends rather than dating. Neither of you are being fair to the other people involved. Breaking up does suck but I find that if so much time has gone past and you are not back together then you probably both just need to accept that you need to move on from each other

whatwillbewillbe03 · 25/10/2018 13:44

She told you to move on and now you are she's pissed off..

You shouldn't be involving yourself in another relationship whilst still saying how much you love your ex. Its completely unfair.

Focus on yourself and moving on with your life without her in it. If she really loved and wanted to be with you then you would have sorted it out by now and be back together.

She doesn't want to be with you but she doesn't want anyone else to either.

Havaina · 25/10/2018 13:46

She's playing mind games with you and dangling you on a hook.

She wanted to keep you around as an option while she was scoping out other guys.

Then you started seeing someone else and she didn't like that so started getting close to you again.

Then when she had you on the hook again, she lost interest in you and started dating this other guy.

Now that she knows you're found on holiday with this other woman she's annoyed because you're not playing the game the way she wants you to play it I.e. You're not pining for her.

She has moved on to other fish. You need cut her out and move on. That means deleting her from everything and blocking her number.

AsleepAllDay · 25/10/2018 13:56

This really does my nut in with men - they'll say 'oh I TOLD you I wasn't looking for a relationship' as if that's an insurance policy WHILE still doing relationship things with the other person.

Going on holiday together and not staying in separate rooms is relationship behaviour and I bet you enjoy all the fringe benefits - seeing her on weekends and texting regularly and all those things with this new girl

You need to get your head straight because while your ex may have messed around so are you & you're hurting innocent people (the new girl) by being a boyfriend to her in everything but name. You don't get my unlimited sympathy I'm afraid

RJP2032 · 25/10/2018 14:11

I dont expect unlimited sympathy and I think you are right. My head wants my ex. But if its over its over and I prefer to start something new with someone and give them a chance. I guess I am just having trouble navigating it all when sometimes my ex throws a breadcrumb to me. From what you have all said it sounds like I need to pull myself together, cut off my ex - and be fair to this new girl.

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AlphaBravo · 25/10/2018 14:16

Erm... paragraphs help.

Focus on yourself and forget dating. Date yourself for a while because it sounds like you don't even really know what you want yourself.

You both sound incredibly immature tbh.

RJP2032 · 25/10/2018 14:30

apologies for lack of paragraphs. It was a copy and paste from a platform that didn't allow for paragraphs.

What a mess.

I want my ex, and if I cant have her I want to see if I can build something as or more special with someone else. I guess I am trying to do achieve them both at the same time and actually messing everyone around in the process. I tried to move on but then I kept getting bits of hope from my ex, and when you love someone that much its hard to ignore them and focus entirely on something that is currently incomparable.

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AnotherCareerThread · 25/10/2018 15:38

Sorry but it doesn't really sound like your ex wants you.
It shouldn't be this hard. Either you both want to be together, or you don't.
Time to move on.
Sounds very much like you need to be single for a while to figure yourself out.

AsleepAllDay · 25/10/2018 21:06

Be honest with yourself. You want your ex most of all, she doesn't want you like that anymore or else you would be together

The other girl is an 'if' you can't have your ex and it's frankly disrespectful to her. You should want her on her own terms, exclusively.

But I'm sure you're enjoying her attention and care and validation so this might just go out the other ear. She has asked you on holiday etc so clearly she likes you as more than a fuck buddy or occasional fling. She may just be waiting for you to wake up and realise that SHE is the one you want

I wouldn't date anyone if I were you. Your head is with your ex and your heart too. Your genitals may be with the other girl but she may as well just be a parking space.

Be honest and truthful. Date someone when they're the sexy and exciting and lovely reason on their own, not the consolation prize so you can have 'one' on your ex by making her think other girls like you and maybe she'll be jealous

Darkstar4855 · 25/10/2018 22:34

Your ex is playing games with you. It’s hard but you need to stop letting her mess with your head and cut off contact completely. You are clearly not right for each other and you have no chance of a healthy happy relationship with someone else until you accept that and move on.

Agree with PPs that you are being very unfair on your new girlfriend. Lots of men (and women) use the “I’m not looking for a relationship right now” line but then behave in the opposite way and are basically using someone for all the good aspects of a relationship but not giving them any emotional commitment in return. Going on holiday with one girl but at the same time messaging your ex and saying you love her is pretty shitty behaviour IMO. Don’t be that guy.

Justanothernameonthepage · 26/10/2018 06:59

Sorry, but I think you should rename your ex as 'NO' in your phone and cut all contact. Stop dating for a while until you're happy and over your ex. The on/off game is a sign it's not going to work out without the drama.

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