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To ask for some advice on DH's PIP meeting tomorrow?

41 replies

Loopylou6 · 24/10/2018 14:44

He was granted indefinite DLA, but now it's moving to PIP.
He has been sent for a meeting with a physio tomorrow, what do we expect?

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Puggles123 · 24/10/2018 19:55

Nat- if you feel unable to attend a face to face and submit a note from a doctor you can avoid it.

signandsingcarols · 24/10/2018 20:00

loopylou yes he was, we were really scared, but it went ok for us, (to be honest he got a lifetime DLA award 20 plus years ago, he has a genetic neuro muscular condition which is degenerative without any form of remission and which has no cure, or treatment, so they couldn't really argue, altho I know they have done for others, even those with terminal diagnoses Angry) let us know how if goes for you,

signandsingcarols · 24/10/2018 20:02

aged knees words fail me.. Angry Angry

Nat6999 · 24/10/2018 20:21

Puggles123 My doctor isn't very supportive, I had to see her yesterday about the infection I'm suffering from & tried to talk to her about how my mobility is deteriorating, how I need more help & possibly see a consultant about both my arthritis & ME/CFS. The GP I saw at the emergency appointment said I need to see a urologist for further investigations as to why this infection has affected me so badly & won't clear up, she just robbed me off with doing more urine cultures over the next month if the infection doesn't clear. None of the GP's at the practice are the type you can really talk to, I used to have a brilliant doctor, she always had time to listen & really helped me when I first became poorly. I'm just going to have to grit my teeth & get through it, it's the second one since January 2017, I'm dreading the fact that they could take my car off me, that's more important than the money I get because if I lose it, that's my independence gone & I will be totally housebound.

CazY777 · 24/10/2018 20:25

It is a horrible process but it worked out ok for my DH. He has mild cp which is now causing him various joint and nerve problems. He had a lifetime award for DLA is now getting PIP standard rate care, awarded for 3 years. He saw a physio who was quite knowledge about his condition so I think that helped.
However his ESA assessment was a complete farce, with a completely inexperienced assessor. But we won the mandatory reconsideration for that.
I wish your DH all the best, just tell him not to put a brave face on it, you have to focus on what you can't do, which is shit for people's self esteem but that's the way it seems to work unfortunately.

agedknees · 24/10/2018 20:38

Good luck for tomorrow.

SugarandVinegar · 24/10/2018 20:44

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SugarandVinegar · 24/10/2018 20:45

Ignore that link Blush

SugarandVinegar · 24/10/2018 20:46

this is the correct one.
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk

irunlikeahipoo · 24/10/2018 21:44

No one is saying lie , however if you answer yes you have a dog as a pet the assessors will assume that you can walk, it hold on to a lead, plan and follow journeys and anything else
However you may never walk the dog ,or do any of the above . Your wife or kids may take care of the dog . But if you say yes to having a dog they will assume that you do all the above .

Same as if you come and your wearing trainers with laces they will assume that you can bend down , put them on & tie up the laces
But it might be a case that your partner helps you do all of this .

The other question they will always ask you is how did you get here

Public transport or by car
If public transport this proves to the assessors that you have no problems in planning and carrying out a journey .No problems with stuff like social anxiety or being around other people . You can sit in one position for more than 30 Mins ( more important for ESA )

If you drive they ask how far it you had to drive to get to the assement centre .
If it’s more than 30 Mins it means you can sit in a seated position for more than 30 Mins ( so no problem doing this in a office for work ). You are able to concentrate and perform complex movements and do more than one thing at a time .
That you have good dexterity in the hands and have no problems in using your legs / feet to change gears use the clutch

OP
If your husband has a wheelchair due to his mobility make sure you use it on the day
If it’s prescribed wheelchair from an enablement center even better
If they ask your husband to get on to the medical table in the room he has to do it on his own . Your not able to help him
If he manages to do this they will say he has no problems in moving from one position to another position.

If he fails the assement ask your doctor to write a letter just outlining briefly yours husbands mobility problem & if his wheelchair is prescribed get the doctors to state that he uses a prescribed wheelchair if he has been referred to any pain clinic ask the doctor to mention this
Dont mention it’s for PIP just ask for a letter outlining his current problems
Take his prescription and all his tablets that he takes with you Maek sure that you hand them to the assessor

Keep this letter for any appeal not only for PIP but for ESA if necessary

It’s also useful for future assement so that you can show that his mobility has not Improved ( if this is the case )
Other stuff to be aware of is if the assessor attempt to shake hands. This shows ( in their mind ) that you don’t suffer from anxiety , no problem meeting others and you have a decent grip / handshake

Also there are CCTV outside the buildings where you park / arrive
If your applying for PIP for mobility they will watch the CCTV to see how you arrived and entered the building.
So if you have a wheelchair make sure you take it and use it
Good luck and if you do need to appeal make sure that you do

goingatlast · 24/10/2018 22:05

My DB had a PIP assessment a few weeks ago in his home. One of the things he was asked to do was when he was sitting down could he touch his feet. This is to see if he can tie his own shoelaces I would assume.

BlankTimes · 25/10/2018 10:19

Good Luck for today Loopylou6 Flowers

Please don't be upset if you're not awarded enough points, many, many people are rejected initially, then again at Mandatory Recommendation because DWP seem to think their assessor's report is Irrefutable Truth, then are awarded appropriately at Tribunal.
I advocated for a relative who was on indefinite DLA and had the decision that was obvious from all the medical evidence submitted.

Brilliant advice upthread from posters who know how the PIP assessors operate.

gfk62 No-one has suggested anyone be dishonest. Unfortunately most people when asked minimise their symptoms
For a PIP interview you need to make it abundantly clear exactly how much your condition affects you and what stops you doing the tasks they ask you about repeatedly, reliably and in a timely fashion.

user1471550517 · 25/10/2018 12:34

If they ask him to do something physical that would cause pain, he shouldn’t attempt it - but instead explain the reason he can’t do it

Take copies of any evidence, appointment letters, medication etc as the likelihood is they won’t have them

TulipTuva · 25/10/2018 12:42

At the meeting they go through the PIP form your husband filled in, they give you 3 words to remember, a simple money sum to work out & ask you to spell a simple word backwards. If they ask your husband to do any movements like bending, putting his arms above his head & behind his back, he is entitled to refuse if it will cause him pain. They test your grip, asking you to squeeze their hands.

They didn't do any of that with me, however, they did repeat questions twice (with time in-between), and I stupidly said "You've already asked me that," so they wrote down that there was no evidence of memory issues. Yet, I'm always leaving the hobs on/burning food, and forgetting the hobs are on and putting a carton of milk on them etc.

They will ask about your education and I would suggest stating that you don't understand the relevance of the question. Get frustrated with them as it will help your case - if you are too friendly, they will write that they built up a good report with you etc.

Loopylou6 · 25/10/2018 13:04

Thanks again everyone.
We've just got back, it went as well as it could I suppose, the lady was very nice and friendly, I guess we just wait and see.
Once again, thanks to you all for taking the time to advise :)

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TheHobbitMum · 25/10/2018 13:06

Goo luck for today OPFlowers

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