To think this apprenticeship being offered is wrong..?

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DS21 has had an interview this week in a tearoom. He has significant baking skills already (sells to shops and private customers) so is definitely of interest. He is doing some trial shifts.

He has been told the wages are £5 ph and there doesn’t appear to be any training aspect (only on-the-job; nothing more formal).

I also employ apprentices in a totally different field. I pay them according to their age and they have 20% of their work timetable in off-site training with a provider, leading to a qualification.

Should DS be offered something similar or can it vary?

Sounds like they’re trying it on to avoid paying the minimum wage

It’s not a real apprenticeship if it doesn’t lead to some kind of qualification. Sounds like they’re tying to sneak out of paying the minimum wage.

Thought this might be of use OP.

www.unionlearn.org.uk/levels-apprenticeship

I've been looking at taking on an apprentice and they do have to have 20% training. There is a supervisor from the training provider to make sure it happens. However, they did say the definition of training can be quite lose and may happen on the job.

www.gov.uk/take-on-an-apprentice sets out the rules, there should be a training element.
This just sounds like employment on the cheap!

Ok, just heard a bit more from DS.
£5ph is right apparently for someone over 19 in their first year; there is a training provider - Wildes Education - who will assess him towards a Hospitality Standards Level 2.

He will need 20% off the job training. Some companies try to get around that but it's supposed to be provable to the ESFA and they company delivering the qualification and the tearoom itself risk fines if they don't comply.

He needs to ask how the qualification is delivered.

www.gov.uk/apply-apprenticeship has a list of apprenticeships you can search by area. If his one is on there you will see who is providing the training and might find a bit more information.

The rule for wages is that over 19s can be paid the apprenticeship rate (currently £3.70) for one year only. After that the employer must pay them the correct minimum wage for their age regardless of how far through the qualification they are.

I assess on the L2 apprenticeship programme. Employers are Contracturally obliged to provide the 20% off the job training. It has to be logged in a reflective account demonstrating what they have learnt. It's quite strict and adds up to quite a few hours.

Thank you everybody.
@Riversleep how would this work for DS in a tea room? If it’s a 30 hour contract, would he be expected to have 6 hours off to self-study? Wilde’s seem to work on an e-portfolio.
Another question: could they make him take the 20% in odd hours?

It's made up of any learning, so time spent on coursework, as well as any job related training, so health and safety courses, inductions, any time he spends shadowing colleagues or under supervision. He should have someone who comes in who will advise him on what can be included in his log. I work with E portfolios and the coursework element and the 20% training are logged separately on it.

He should technically have the 20% given to him during his work hours so if he does this during the evening, he should have toil. However, this doesn't always happen!