To be cross that someone was videoing all the kids in a public swimming pool?

[mumwithatum]

Today I took my kids swimming to a public session. There are signs up everywhere saying no cameras / photographing etc.
A parent was stood at the side of the pool videoing their child with their granddad in the pool. However they were on one side of the pool and the child on the other and from the way that she was moving the phone and the length of time it was for she was clearly getting all of the people in the pool in the shot too. They were very blatant about it and did it several times in front of the lifeguard with nothing said. In the end I said to the lifeguard is that ok then and it stopped. AIBU to think it's not ok to do that as it's perfectly acceptable on holiday abroad. My only argument is that I fully expect people to take pics on holiday with the main focus being their family, but I don't expect it in a place that clearly says it's not ok and the focus appears to be everyone in the pool.

People just think because it's inside a building they can stop someone taking a photo.
I'm happy to be corrected but afaik it's not illegal to photograph or film anywhere. It's just policy in some places?
People also use this logic when they decide school saying "no photos or videos of the school play" means 'feel free to do what you like because you can't stop me. My desire to have photos of everything (which inevitably gets shared) means photos of children on the child protection register end up being circulated and all over social media'.

Policies have to be written to cater for people who are idiots.

Common sense says if you want a quick photo of your child in a pool then take a photo of your child in the pool and be close by, not video the whole damn pool when you're nowhere close.

If someone was at the beach and the took a photo of their child and someone happened to be in the background it's not weird. If they stood there videoing everyone in swimwear to catch their child on the rocks in the distance then they'd be weird.

Yanbu. The trouble is that today photos end up everywhere and anywhere, unlike 20 years ago when they would end up in someone's album in the cupboard under the stairs. When you are out and about you dont know other people's stories; people have a million individual reasons why they may not want their child's image published. For some of us there is a genuine fear of bring identified and located, and until you have lived with that fear, i don't think you can fully appreciate it.

I’ve seen a mum videoing her kid at my kids swimming lessons. Told the duty manager, he told her to stop and waiting with her to delete it. YANBU.

You’re a hero. Stopping people filming their kids one parent at a time.

So for those saying they don't see the problem, please think outside the box more.

Yanbu, you don't know what they're going to do with that video or photos. I'm not saying selling pics of kids in swimsuits but say it ends up on social media and there's a child or adult who is identified and in danger? Think adopted kids or DV victims....

It’s a non issue. Would you stop someone taking pictures of a beach? Worlds gone slowly mad.

I wouldn’t be especially bothered about my child inadvertently being in someone’s video

However if that is the pool’s policy the woman was a CF for thinking it doesn’t apply to her. And the lifeguard should have grown a pair and enforced the rule

Presumably they have the policy for a reason even if it wouldn’t phase most parents. It’s a long shot but there could be looked after kids or children who’s parent is hiding from DV and a picture online could disclose their whereabouts

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
The pool is private property with public access subject to conditions ie no filming.

So for those saying they don't see the problem, please think outside the box more

I don’t see the problem with a parent filming their child’s swimming class. Talk me through it.

kierenthecommunity
Exactly.
Worlds gone slowly mad.
Yes. World's going mad. But we probably differ in the reasons.
I don't see how on earth getting a photo every time you want to whip your camera out is more important than other people's ability to go swimming without finding them on the internet because of a modern need to photograph everything (usually to add to social media).

As ive said before, policies have to be made idiot proof. Common sense would be if you wanted a photo of your child, you'd bring your child close and take a photo of them. The woman in this situation was miles away and filming/photographing the whole pool because you know she wants a photo.

It's the same for school plays. There's always one idiot who thinks their belief in right to take photos is more important than the child in care' s right to not have their location shared.

I don’t see the problem with a parent filming their child’s swimming class. Talk me through it.

The problem isn't the parent filming their own child, the problem is people who don't want to accidently appear in someone else's video only in their swimming costume. As it cannot be guaranteed that videos will only be of the child in question, the privacy of all pool users should be respected above a parent wanting to video a child in the pool and not caring who else ends up in the video.

I don't see the issue. You can film people swimming all you want on a beach or any holiday pool. You're in a public place and can be filmed. In the changing room no. But in the pool? Why ever not? If perverts want to see children in swimming costumes they can just go to the pool! Or beach! Or any water park etc.

The problem isn't the parent filming their own child, the problem is people who don't want to accidently appear in someone else's video only in their swimming costume.

Ah I see. Vanity disguised as ‘privacy’.

You are in a private place with public access subject to conditions.
Not a public place.
The conditions are no photography.

Ah I see. Vanity disguised as ‘privacy’.
Not at all. Claiming vanity is ridiculous as it dismisses anyone who has an issue as being vain and self absorbed.

I choose not to go to a gym near me because there's a high chance students might be there. I don't wish to be seen in the pool by teenage students.
I wouldn't upload photos of myself in a bikini to social media either.
I would choose not to swim that day if the local news were filming.

If someone wants a close up of their child then there are ways to do it without filming a whole pool of people.

But as ever if something isn't captured on film then it didn't happen. Timmy swam for the first time today! Oh really? I didn't see it on Instagram so you're clearly making it up.

Meh.
Finding it a bit hard to get worked up over this.
Whilst I can't say I'd be thrilled to be inadvertently filmed, if I don't know about it, I'm not going to care.
Also wouldn't lose sleep over my children being filmed.

Are video cameras and phones banned on beaches?

I completely get why most people aren't bothered. I wouldn't be. However if it does get put on social media and that child is looked after then it can have implications. But otherwise it doesn't bother me.

We have young bullies in my neighbour hood, only aged 9-12. They are so cheeky and gives me so much cheek. I keep quiet. Getting my kids bikes in. The were provoking a reaction and videoing me. I never came to the bait but the videoed me anyway and put me up on YouTube and instragram. So somewhere on these channels there is a video of me by these bullies.

SerenDippitty
Beaches are public spaces.
Swimming pools at private spaces with their own rules.

Someone wants a photo of their child then take a photo of their child. They don't need to film a whole pool of people.

There are times in life I don't mind being photographed and couldn't care less but if there was a reason why photographs weren't allowed then I'd suck it and get on with life. Not having a photo or video of something isn't going to kill me.

Then again I'm also one of those miserable gits at gigs who finds the sea of phones in the air irritating. Pay all that money for a gig ticket only to watch it through your screen.

YABU and a bit hysterical.

Izzygrey not sure that I would call it hysterical ? I've asked for an opinion on me calmly pointing out to the lifeguard. I've said that I felt bad afterwards which is why I asked. Maybe I tend more towards drama though as for me hysterical would have been much more theatrical 

The first time we took our son swimming in the local pool we took photos and videos of him. You can get permission if you bring id and fill in a form at reception.

They were clearly being unreasonable as they were breaking the rules of the pool. I can't stand it when people expect everyone else to obey rules but think they are better than them. And call it vanity if you like but when I go swimming in my local pool I just chuck on a costume and go, a lot more prep has gone into it before a summer holiday and no I don't want my photo appearing anywhere. I would think someone filming all round them at a beach pretty suspect too. The pool has made these rules for a reason you don't necessarily know better than them.

That's a highly unlikely scenario but you'd seriously be happy with a paedophile getting off to a video of your child?

There's at least two layers of crazy I'd need in order to be upset. I'd have to invent a hypothetical person, make them indulge in a hypothetical act in my imagination, then get upset at what I'd gone out of my way to imagine, even though what I've imagined would have zero impact if it were real rather than imaginary.