Life is better today but the ‘Yuff’are unfgrateful

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As a teacher I am probably a bit biased but maybe more informed.

The generation of today don’t know hardship. Sometimes for the better as there but sometimes I feel not,it does make kids entitled.

I work in a leafy suburb school.

It’s a battle to get kids to shut up to learn. They eventually do but its a battle.

They flout school rules as you watch them ,such as a one way system.

They don’t bring their ownequipment and break yours. Snap rulers, pens and throw them at each other. Glue , glue sticks to
the wall

Bins don’t exist

They ask me why I wear the same dress every week. Lots of personal commenst.

They try to sit on my seat and log onto the computer and search records.

Many more.

Did we do this as kids? I certainly didn’t . Bet half of parents don’t realise the poor listening skills and behaviour of their children.
AIBU

Stop howling.It really isn't funny!

Whether it's getting worse or not something needs to change as following the other thread. There is a teacher retainment and recruitment crisis.

So funny that.

Sorry but I really don't see how high energy kids being a bit disruptive is new, or even that big a deal. That is what kids are like, it's what they have always been like, I would suggest people here are being quite naive or sheltered if they are shocked by it.

You must be lacking imagination then @RandomObject .

Based on the OPs description - kids being messy, cheeky and pulling pranks. Sorry but it sounds tame to me. When I was at school the type of behaviour described would probably have been considered a good lesson.

The whole 'kids today are disgraceful' was said to me and my generation, said to my parent's generation, and so on. We literally have ancient Babylonian writings of adults complaining about horrible the next generation is. It's a 'there's nothing new under the sun' situation.

Yeah, some posh areas have entitled kids who are nasty just for nastiness sake or for the power kick. There will also be kids in a posh school whose parents are in masses of debt to be there, who are being abused, who live with food insecurity, who aren't given money and supplies by their parents and are struggling to access services because of their age and parents, who are dealing with a fuck ton and so on and have it all handwaved away because it's a naice area and naice kids somehow can't know hardship.

The school needs to deal with discipline and support the teachers and the teachers need to stop assuming going to a leafy suburb school means anything about a kid's life outside of school.

Randomobject, I’m guessing you’re not a teacher?! It’s not fun in any way to deal with constant disrespect and bad behaviour.

And why do so many posters seem hell bent in ignoring all the teachers on here who are saying behaviour has deteriorated massively in recent years? No it hasn’t always been the same - it’s getting much much worse. And it’s nothing to do with social class or money - it’s unfettered access to video games, reality tv and parents wanting to be their kids friends. Let’s stop pretending this stuff isn’t happening .

I think the thing that is different is the constant low level disruption.
We have child centred parenting where we are all accused of damaging kids self esteem, when in reality to entitled little buggers need taking down a peg or 2.
My BIL is a teacher who has no problem with discipline now.If they are being shits he yells at them til they cry. He has them sat at single desks facing the front and working in silence. He uses 'chalk and talk' teaching method .Inspectors don't like it but he gets the best results

I'm not a teacher, although my older sister is. I'm not trying to put them down or say that anyone has it easy, just that from my own personal experiences I'm surprised that this is considered as such awful behaviour when I saw much, much worse every day as a teen. Perhaps my own schooling was more unusual than I think. Like I said before, it's odd to me that people are saying everything is going to hell in a handbasket when I knew girls who lost their virginity on the school field during lunchtime at the age of 12...

No it hasn’t always been the same - it’s getting much much worse. And it’s nothing to do with social class or money - it’s unfettered access to video games, reality tv and parents wanting to be their kids friends.

So schools and educational policy doesn't come into it? My experience as a parent is that schools accept low level bad behaviour so the good kids will behave up to that threshold. The kids watch the teachers reaction to incidents and learn that Mr A doesn't care if a rubber is chucked around the classroom or Miss B won't tell people off for shouting out the answer.
Teachers also use techniques like sitting badly behaved kids next to the well behaved or rewarding the badly behaved kids for behaviour that others show daily. It creates a "why bother?" culture amongst the well behaved.