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AIBU to ask you to read this and then please fill in the GRA consultation

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sashh · 16/10/2018 09:45

Thisis a blog of a transexual woman explaining why the proposed amendments to the GRA are frightening the few thousand transwomen and is not for their benefit.

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darkriver198868 · 16/10/2018 09:55

A very respectful post.

JennySelf · 16/10/2018 10:15

Finally - some sense being spoken.

I have commented on this blog, and I had already completed the GRC questionaire.

Would any more transsexual women like to comment or get involved?

The GRC questionaire closes in a few days!!!

paffuto · 16/10/2018 10:35

Thanks for the link to the transsexual womens blog. About time we heard concerns of genuine transsexual people. Makes it clear how damaging the proposed changes would be to them also. (I've already completed the consultation thanks to FWR). Last few days everyone. Brew

BlooperReel · 16/10/2018 10:51

Thanks for this, very enlightening link

paffuto · 16/10/2018 11:34

Disheartening that so far, not many are coming onto this thread, reading the link and posting. Here's a great quote from another MNer which I saw recently "Not all women share my views, but my views do protect all women".

nellieellie · 16/10/2018 11:47

I’m just wondering. The blog is anonymous isn’t it? I would love to circulate it but isn’t it open to criticism that it may not even be trans women who have written it?

MorningsEleven · 16/10/2018 11:52

I don't believe for one second that this blog was written by a transgender woman.

paffuto · 16/10/2018 11:53

Why not Mornings?

hungryhippie · 16/10/2018 11:55

I don't believe for one second that this blog was written by a transgender woman

It isn't, it is written by a transSEXUAL woman.
There are plenty who agree with her too. Look up Miranda Yardley or Hope Pink.

JennySelf · 16/10/2018 12:06

FWIW...I think it is genuine.

It felt real to me; and the well expressed concerns resonated for me, and the language used throughout expressed the concerns in a way that I would phrase them myself.

And I say this, speaking as a transsexual woman.

paffuto · 16/10/2018 12:42

"FWIW". And that is worth a lot, coming from your own personal experience of being a transsexual woman JennySelfSmile I wish more people like yourself would join in on here.

kesstrel · 16/10/2018 12:52

MorningsEleven Can you tell us specifically what points on that blog strike you as unlikely to be made by a transsexual woman, and why you believe that?

sashh · 16/10/2018 13:01


I agree it means a lot.

And I know you are part of a group who find it hard to speak out against the Lily Madigan's of the world simply because you are in such a small minority.

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BonfiresOfInsanity · 16/10/2018 13:27

A very measured blog, one that has given me an insight to the concerns transsexual people also have with the proposed changes that I hadn't fully considered.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 16/10/2018 13:31

I had a chat with a transwoman while out leafletting for Fair Play for Women the other day. She said she didn't need a leaflet because she already knew what the issues were and entirely supported us.

She told me she had been one of the signatories to the letter published in the Guardian from 17 transsexuals protesting the proposed changes to the GRA.

Her arguments were the same as set out on the blog in the OP.

Do you doubt the named transsexuals who signed the Guardian letter too, MorningsEleven?

They were very brave to sign, as anyone who puts their head above the parapet is ruthlessly attacked by genderists.

kesstrel · 16/10/2018 13:36

Good point, Prawn. And of course, a transsexual, Debbie Hayton, was just on Woman's Hour arguing against amendments to the GRA.

JennySelf · 17/10/2018 14:28

Some of the data on that blog highlights the problem of being seen and heard.

Apparently there were expected to be 5,000 transsexual people who would take up the chance for a GRC back in 2004.

If there are now 500,000 TRA's clamouring for Self ID...then for every one of me, there is 100 of them Shock

That's one of the reasons why HMG are not hearing much from those that the GRA/GRC was originally intended for.

That said, I contacted and met with my MP back in January 2018.

He was completely unaware of wider issues such as safe spaces/DV shelters/prisons/girl guides/women's sports, etc. Although he did tell me that he was opposed to Self ID (but was surprised to hear that I was also opposed). But he also told me he was afraid to speak out publicly because of the rhetoric from TRA's.

I have no idea what else to do about this imminent nightmare; and the idea of publicly going up against the TRA's scares the hell out of me.

But I'm open to any practical suggestions...

IdahoCrow · 17/10/2018 14:37

We shouldn't be scared and its shit that we are being intimidated by TRAs.

I think it's because so much money is riding on the outcome of this potentially seismic shift in what children can consent to, that this nightmare is happening. If a child can consent to 'changing their sex', they can presumably consent to all sorts of things including sexual activity. It's classic paedophile ideology.

I'll never forgive the politicians who are pushing this agenda.

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