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To have little respect for the royal family...

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AiryFairyUnicornRainbow · 15/10/2018 13:16

AIBU to feel furious that homeless people in Windsor, are asked to move along, every time there is a royal wedding?

The rich poor divide in this country is monstrous

It feels like throwing glitter on dog shit, it really does - having a lavish occasion and brushing serious issues under the carpet

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AuntBeastie · 15/10/2018 13:37

I totally understand where you’re coming from but this sentiment does nothing to assist. The royal family aren’t responsible for the enormous early inequality in this county. They’re a very public example of wealth and privilege, but the people making the decisions that exacerbate homelessness and inequality and poverty are those in our elected government. You could abolish the royals tomorrow a redistribute their wealth, and if we still had a Tory government it wouldn’t make a jot of difference to the poorest brits.

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 15/10/2018 13:42

You have little respect for a family who were born into money and subsequently have probably done more for charity than most families who acquire wealth ever will. Hmm

Your anger is misplaced I shall point you in the direction of our elected politicians who should be the people dealing with these issues.

m00rfarm · 15/10/2018 13:45

Well said headsdown. I am sick of people braying about the unfairness of things (like this) without putting a single thought into what they are saying. Drives me mad.

thisneverendingsummer · 15/10/2018 13:47

SIGH, another Royal bashing thread. Hmm

I am immediately hiding this. I'm sick of it.

divadee · 15/10/2018 13:47

So do you think the queen and her family sit their demanding the homeless be moved or rather do you think it's the locally elected council that moves them on as they don't want people to see the homeless problem they have? You are aiming your anger at the wrong people. Look at government and the mess they have got the country into.

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AiryFairyUnicornRainbow · 15/10/2018 16:36

locally elected council that moves them on as they don't want people to see the homeless problem they have?

Yes of course. It is shameful. But they do not oppose it

..and It is not just that

Who choses to have a multi million pound wedding, and then expect the tax payer to fund the multimillion pound security bill - whilst the police are cutting funding and we have less police on the beat than ever...for the rest of us plebs, whilst crime rate is through the roof

I am not completely anti royal - it is just that I am Pro Human being, and the differences between the 'haves' and the 'have nots' is abysmal -with the 'haves' pretending the other side do not exist

You have little respect for a family who were born into money and subsequently have probably done more for charity than most families who acquire wealth ever will - There has been a lot of studies done in the past which proves the working classes give a higher percentage of their income to charity, than the higher earners - it is all relative to income.

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Andthentherewere5 · 15/10/2018 16:38

What do you do to help? I can’t imagine you give away 90% of your income, do you?

Biancadelriosback · 15/10/2018 16:40

Charity work isn't just about giving money though, it's about research, spending time with those affected, raising awareness etc

cleopatracomingatya · 15/10/2018 16:40

The Royal Family contributed 1.766 billion to the economy in 2017.

Maintaining the monarchy costs around £292 million.

I think I see the benefit of having them around to be honest.

Neshoma · 15/10/2018 16:45

It's £2 million so not quite multi million.

Don't you not think the little bride's maids and page boys should be kept safe. They have no say in who they are or what they do.

The police also keep the public safe - an event like this could attract terrorists. Is that Ok with you?

GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 15/10/2018 16:45

I’m local and my Dh is police officer. They weren’t asked to move on. Don’t believe everything you read in the papers.

  1. they were offered accommodation for the day. Or somewhere to store there belongings securely. The police gave them tags to secure their things themselves and ensure they couldn’t be tampered with until they got them back. Then they used their transport to help them move it.

  2. they were asked not to sit in certain places die to heavy footfall and fear of being trampled on/ crushing. Other members of the public were also asked not to sit on the ground for the same concerns.

  3. some of the homeless people I see regularly have weapons on them on display (I know they do this for protection) but clearly this is a security risk not really to the royals but the ordinary members of the public.

Rainbunny · 15/10/2018 22:05

I have no personal dislike of the RF but I am a Republican and I strongly believe that no political power should lie with a person who by accident of birth is the king or queen. The current queen has been excellent at staying out of politics and never actually trying to assert any of her "ceremonial" powers such as refusing to sign a bill into law or refusing to acknowledge and invite a recently elected winner to form a government. It will be interesting to see what Charles does when he's king...

Doubletrouble99 · 15/10/2018 22:12

Thanks so much Georgie for the explanation. That make so much sense. I note the OP hasn't been back to apologise!

CoughLaughFart · 16/10/2018 01:08

I’m glad we have a Royal family, although I wouldn’t criticise anyone for a republican position. What I would criticise is needless digs. Why should someone refuse to have their own family at their wedding because of the security bill it would cause?

Royals were born into the position they occupy. Save your ire for the likes of th me Kardashians and the Essex and Chelsea crews who actively seek fame, but then claim about lack of privacy.

VladmirsPoutine · 16/10/2018 01:17

I'm no royalist but your ire is misplaced.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 16/10/2018 01:19

Oh come on it’s going to look crap on the wedding video having vagrants in the background, have a heart!

EmperorTomatoRetchup · 16/10/2018 01:34

What I would criticise is needless digs. Why should someone refuse to have their own family at their wedding because of the security bill it would cause

When those individuals expect the taxpayer to pay for it when they have private means to pay for it themselves. Football clubs pay for policing in and around grounds on match days, why shouldn't the Windsor use their vast private resources to do the same?

abbsisspartacus · 16/10/2018 01:53

Oh joy another misinformed thread about the royal family

They are human beings with feelings

CoughLaughFart · 16/10/2018 02:03

When those individuals expect the taxpayer to pay for it when they have private means to pay for it themselves. Football clubs pay for policing in and around grounds on match days, why shouldn't the Windsor use their vast private resources to do the same?

You are misinformed about football clubs.

By the same token, who do you think paid for the security at the harvest festival Camilla attended? Who pays for the security when the Queen or Charles tour a factory or steelworks? If you have an issue with royalty in general, then fine. This wedding is NOT what makes it expensive.

EmperorTomatoRetchup · 16/10/2018 02:06

Oh joy another misinformed thread about the royal family

By misinformed you mean 'people not agreeing with me'.

They are human beings with feelings

They're actually shape shifting lizard mutants.

Yes they are humans, but that does not make them immune to criticism nor does it mean the insitution they represent shouldn't be scrutinised.

EmperorTomatoRetchup · 16/10/2018 02:14

You are misinformed about football clubs

I am not misinformed, they pay for policing in and immediately around the grounds.

By the same token, who do you think paid for the security at the harvest festival Camilla attended? Who pays for the security when the Queen or Charles tour a factory or steelworks? If you have an issue with royalty in general, then fine. This wedding is NOT what makes it expensive

I would question the value of having Royals turning up to unveil a plaque that says they unveiled a plaque and the associated costs, but nevertheless that's part of their working role. A private wedding is not part of that working role and should be funded in full from private means.

artio0 · 16/10/2018 02:19

I agree with you @AiryFairyUnicornRainbow.

No they haven't asked to be born into a royal family, but they're not doing much to deal with the disastrous state the UK is in either.

As for the Charity argument, I'm not convinced. Apparently the Queen supports hundreds of British charities to raise £1.4bn a year for good causes (how exactly? she's just put her name on it, right?). No comparison was made with the income of charities that lack royal approval. It's good for the Royal image but there is no calculation of what amount of the £1.4bn was attributable to patronage. Source

I'm also not convinced by the 'but they bring in money' argument either... When a request to back this up was made to VisitBritain they could not provide any proof of it. Plus that £1.766 billion number included money made from British heritage sites such as the tower of London. They would still make money if we didn't have a monarchy so I find that very misleading.

Clairenewbie · 16/10/2018 02:25

What gripes me is Christmas, people only remember the homeless at Christmas time but never the other 300 days a year they sleep rough

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AiryFairyUnicornRainbow · 16/10/2018 07:02

I note the OP hasn't been back to apologise!

Apologise for what? For having a different opinion?

How Bigoted. It is only a discussion - and that is what happens, people have different opinions.

There are different ways of saying the same thing...Moving people on / offering them accommodation for the day - either way temporarily removes the 'problem'....it is not something that should be happening. Give them a day sitting in a warm room so a very privileged couple can get married without vagrants in the background - it is just insulting.

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DayManChampionOfTheSun · 16/10/2018 07:12

OP would you rather the homeless people were trampled on by the huge crowds these events bring?