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Who was in the wrong? Sick of 'D'H and DD gaslighting me.

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LivingWithIdiots · 11/10/2018 17:03

Settle down because its quick long - sorry!

So D for Dickhead H and I went out for lunch and a bikeride (trying out new folding bikes) this afternoon finishing up at the gym. We knew we had to be out at 3pm to do the school pickup at 3.20 for youngest DS and older DS was going to meet us to be picked up as the gym is next to his college. I told H I was going out to the car at 3 and he said he'd be out in 2 minutes.

When I got to the car, I realised he had the keys so I stood waiting with older DS. At 3.10 I called adult DD and asked her to walk down to pick up younger DS (school a 10 minute drive from gym but can be longer if traffic heavy which it usually is at that time) as H had made us late. She was not happy as she's generally not helpful and didn't have her slap on wasn't ready to leave the house. Then I went back into the gym to find H but couldn't find him, he wasn't answering phone, so started walking back to the car thinking he may have walked out without me seeing him, when I see him coming out behind me with a stupid grin on his face. So I said what the hell is he playing at and he said there was no rush as adult DD was picking up youngest DS wasn't she? He didn't know that I'd had to ring DD at that point. He made out I was making an issue out of nothing as usual and it was OK as DS (7) sometimes comes out late, no apology for keeping DS and I waiting. Its 3.18pm at this point. Obviously we were not going to get to DS's school at 3.20.

DD then calls saying she's just leaving to get DS and I tell her to hurry up as its a 5 min walk, we're now on our way but won't get in there in time. H then interjects and says we will and as DD is obviously pissed off at having to go out, I ask her how far she's got with the intention of telling her to turn back but she says she's just across the road from the school so I say as she's there she may as well get DS so he's not waiting for us as we'll be late. Surprisingly there is no traffic so H drives to the school and says he's going to get DS despite knowing DD is already there. Making a point because I was pissed off he'd made us lateHmm I expect DD and DS to jump in the car with H but he deliberately stops the car quite a way from the school and says he'll walk back with them so I can drive home as he 'doesn't want to have to look at me' . I then get a call from DD asking why the hell I asked her to pick DS up if H was going to be there and shouting about me wasting her time then she hung up on me.

I then walked in the kitchen and saw the massive mess she'd left cooking unidentified food that she burnt in a frying pan and a pot with other dirty crockery dumped on the side, hob filthy too. Kitchen was totally clean before we'd gone out. She'd also been asked to hoover around (a very rare request) which she hadn't done.

I'm still quite angry about H being a twat and DD having a go at me so when they got to the front door, I opened it and DD made to push past me in a huff so I pushed her back gently in a kind of excuse me who do you think you've been talking to kind of thing. She went nuts, pushing me back, hitting me in the chest shouting 'get your fucking hands off me, you're not laying your hands on me' going mental! DH then went nuts about her screaming and shouting and swearing, blaming me for starting it.

There were parents from DS's school walking past, who could hear everything and DS of course, who is used to DD behaving like this but still!

So who was BU?

BTW H is an absolute tool who often keeps us waiting in the car when going out, has made us late for school meetings etc. DD has had serious anger issues since puberty which I have tried again and again to get her to see the GP about. I refuse to tread on eggshells around her like H does but she is loud and I'm aware the neighbours hear her when she goes off on one.

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YearOfYouRemember · 11/10/2018 18:42

I feel sorry for you OP and your younger child. Used to his older sister being a bitch? Lovely.

Juells · 11/10/2018 18:48

Tell DH and DD to leave, and get your own car.

GertrudeCB · 11/10/2018 18:48

So what are you going to do about it op?

tolerable · 11/10/2018 18:49

gooddness me!!!!!!!!!!! People treat you how you let them. As i am a repeat offender.probably conditioned in early yrs to tolerate the intolerable i can kinda underrstand how its got so far along...but..if you dont like it change it. ds should not have to "be used"to utter ignorance...dd gets off wi minging kitchen cos room to say was gony do it when you called...but attitude otherwise stinks.no favours being done letting it go on.shes adult-make her take you out for a drink n get her up against a wall if thats what it takes...dh sounds like hes maybe so laid back hes missing the show-speak to him...fix it.cos-they aint gonna x

supersop60 · 11/10/2018 18:51

Always have the keys, and don't wait. "We're leaving at xxx o'clock" and stick to it.
DD needs some boundaries. "This is what I expect. When you don't do it I feel xyz, if it happens again, abc will happen"

Tortoisecharlie · 11/10/2018 18:54

Does this happen regularly?

It’s not good. Your DD actually hitting you? And DH blaming you for everything?

Have you talked to friends? Please talk to someone seriously about these things. It’s not good for youngest DS to see this either.

Absla · 11/10/2018 18:55

I’m only 24 and no longer live with mum but from 15 paid my own way and from 19 paid full rent, cooked and cleaned for my mum as well as holding down a full time and a part time job.

The point is, I’m only 2 years older, and would never ever treat my mum like that, you deserve better from your daughter and H x

DonnaDarko · 11/10/2018 18:58

They have no respect for you. I'd be kicking then both out. Get some friends to help you.

Racecardriver · 11/10/2018 19:02

You all are (with the exception of DS). You all sound a bit mad and should tone it down a bit.

User02 · 11/10/2018 19:06

Talking from horrible experiences, I would say to you to get away from such horrible people. That is no way to treat another human being. As for Dreadful Daughter hitting you stop that right now. If she ever dares to do that whip out your phone and record it then go to the police. As for the Dickhead Husband dump him, he brings nothing to your life and may well have given Dreadful Daughter the idea that it is ok to shout and swear and hit you. With any luck Dear Son will know not to behave like either of those two members of the household.
You are worth so much more.

YeTalkShiteHen · 11/10/2018 19:06

If I’d pulled that shit with my mother at that age she’d have fucking decked me!

OP your H and DD are abusing you, it’s really awful to read all that, I can’t imagine how awful it is to live it. Cruel and spiteful, especially your H.

Please get you and your younger kids away from these horrible people. You deserve so much better.

busybarbara · 11/10/2018 19:11

As for the Dickhead Husband dump him, he brings nothing to your life

That is an amazing conclusion to jump to on the basis of one post. Yes, totally destroy your family because someone on the internet said so Hmm

KurriKurri · 11/10/2018 19:16

First - I'm sorry you had to put up with that behaviour from the pair of them, it must have been horrible for you.
Your DD has no reason to be living at home - she brings nothing to the table in terms of helping you, being pleasant, (does she contribute any money - I presume not if she is at uni) she can move out and get some kind of uni accomodation. Tell her that her behaviour today was the final straw and you want her moved out byu the weekend. Very bad for you yongest Ds especially to have to witness her being aggressive and rude to you.

Regarding your husband -constantly being late and messing people around so they are always waiting for you is classic controlling behaviour. It sends you the message 'I am more important than you, so you will always have to wait for me and dance to my tune' 'I will make you anxious and dependent on me so that you will realise my importance'. He is as you rightly say a tool. And many worse adjectives.

I lived with a man like that for many years, and it completely wore me down - my life is infinitely better since I got away from him. You are having to deal with disrespect and nasty behaviour from two fronts, - it is really draining because you are always on alert waiting for the next 'attack' or incident, that means you can't ever truly relax, and there is no predicting when or how the next incident will blow up because people who behave as your DD and DH do are unpredictable.

Try to get your DD out first then assess whether you want to stay with a man who treats you so disrespectfully. Do you love him ? Would you miss him? or would your life be a hell of a lot easier if he moved out too ?

MadMum101 · 11/10/2018 19:19

It was more of a light push as she tried to push past me to come in. As she had hung up on me on the phone and then I'd seen the mess she left in the kitchen(which H cleaned up), it was a kind of 'you're not coming in til you apologise' kind of thing. I was stupid to not foresee that she would escalate it like that.

She goes from 0-60 in seconds. She is like an overgrown fucking toddler having tantrums, full of drama. Unfortunately as her mother, I need to see her through Uni as she completely screwed up her education at school, then I know I'll have done my bit and she can piss off. We can't afford for her to be in halls, the loan would not cover the accommodation and we worked out she'd need us to sub her around £300 a month just for bare essentials which we can't afford as my career ended when one of our middle DS's was diagnosed with complex SN. She's crap with money and would have constantly asked for more anyway.

Youngest DS gives her what for and tells her she's horrible. She can be quite sweet with him if she's in the right mood.

H is from a different culture where men rule (I had no idea how bad it was until I visited his country 8 years and 3 DC into our relationship) but I won't put up with that shit so he tries to get some control by pissing me off and blaming me for everything that he can. He and DD started ganging up on me when she was a teen with him always taking her side.

It has always been frustrating for me as I come from a very abusive background with little self esteem and also didn't have my Dad in my life so have always been proud that H and DD have a close relationship.

I will not be leaving. We have another two DS's (teens) as well as the 7 year old.

Sometimes I question myself that maybe I am BU though hence this thread!

LivingWithIdiots · 11/10/2018 19:20

Fuck! NC fail!

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DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 11/10/2018 19:21

Your daughter has no respect for you because she has seen your relationship with your husband and treated you the way that he does.

You need to sort out your marriage if you are to stand a chance of sorting your relationship with your daughter. If you can make him see the damage he is doing and take action/get counselling then you stand a chance of getting through to your daughter together. If you don't have his backing then you have no chance.

We only have a snapshot so I'm not going to tell you to leave, but it may well be that your choices are to stay as it is and accept the way you are treated, or to go. Unfortunately it seems to me that a man who will blame you for being hit by your daughter has too much contempt for you to want to put any effort into turning your family around.

Shoobydooby09 · 11/10/2018 19:24

I'm in my 40s OP and have NEVER laid a finger on my parents - wouldn't dream of it. I don't know how you can manage her anger and violence if at 22 she will not seek help. Perhaps once she has finished uni and found a job it would be time for her to move out and look after herself. How is your relationship with her usually? As for you 'D' H, I think I would just avoid doing activities so close to school pick up time. He doesn't sound very nice though? Is he like that with you all of the time?

Rebecca36 · 11/10/2018 19:25

penisbeakers, just had to say I love the term, 'shitkettles'. May I borrow it occasionally (your name is good too but I'll leave that to you).

toxic44 · 11/10/2018 19:29

That DH is from a different culture is not really an acceptable reason for his bad behaviour. He lives here, he married you knowing you are not of his background and he is capable of adapting if he chooses. My father was from a 'men rule' culture. My mum would take so much from him then tell him if he wanted a woman who daren't put two words together, he'd better get off back where he came from; that if he wanted her he had to learn her ways because he wasn't in 'man-rule' land any more.

Havaina · 11/10/2018 19:31

YANBU. Sorry to hear about the wau they both treat you. Will DD move out after she finishes uni?

What's your plan for H? Do you have a mortgage on the house?

RyderWhiteSwan · 11/10/2018 19:31

Haha your mum sounds awesome toxic44

choli · 11/10/2018 19:32

I will not be leaving. We have another two DS's (teens) as well as the 7 year old.

How do the two teens treat you?

Feefeetrixabelle · 11/10/2018 19:43

Your daughter is 22- paying for the roof over her head is her problem not yours. Doesn’t matter if she is at uni or not she’s an adult. Time she became one.

ThisIsNotMyRealName1 · 11/10/2018 19:44

You came from a very abusive background and you are in an abusive relationship now. You are now showing your children what relationships look like and your DD is top of the class .

Fannybaws52 · 12/10/2018 08:16

Your sons will soon be joining in. You are teaching them this is ok.

I left home at 18 to go to uni without a penny. I got a job to fund the bills. It's what grown ups do. You are giving your daughter a free ride in life, teaching her nothing and setting her up to fail.

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