IMPORTANT. To ask if MNers are aware of this re Universal credit&SAHP’s?

[UnsolicitedCockPics]

So up til now on tax credits one parent can stay home while the other parent works.
And for almost 20 years it’s been seen as completely acceptable

An example is a family with 3 dc
The FT working parent earns approx £26,000. The SAHP receives approx £100 a week in tax credits

Not only on Universal credit will that amount be much less (approx 30% iirc) but the previously SAHP will be made to attend the job centre and job search as a condition to receive Universal credit

The aim is so NOBODY is on “benefits”

There seems to be an assumption from the general public that this will only affect people not in work. THAT IS NOT THE CASE

[Itsatravesty]

Is it better to pay someone else to do childcare than to do it yourself? Because... why?

Well the obvious answer would be that you would then have a parent and a childcare provider both paying tax, however as has been mentioned already it can often cost the government more to have a parent in work as in work benefits plus childcare contributions can often be more than unemployment benefits, so that leads me to believe that none of these decisions are about the economy, they just seem to want all women in paid employment regardless if it actually costs the taxpayer more, looks better doesn't it. And not just the government, I've seen the same said on here many times about single parents and when I've pointed out the above it has always without fail been completely ignored because those posters couldn't possibly admit their mistake in thinking the unemployed cost the taxpayer less than many in work.

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

Im reporting that personal attack

[Snog]

Very rude and uncalled for to Xenia

[Snog]

Fine to disagree with Xenia but no need to be rude and disrespectful

[Neshoma]

Everyone is entitle to a view. Just scroll past Xenia posts.

[KittenFaces]

i think xenia was the one being rude when her contribution to the discussion was how she went back to work at 2 weeks... like that is an actual option for 99.99% of people.

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

ivos

You just agreed with someone's opinion unsolicited, so quite obviously yours isnt a personal attack

[chillpizza]

People with three it more children before the cut off can’t claim UC anyway can they? So it’s only those who planned a third + after that date at which point they knew the whole system was changing anyway. Also as long as one parent earns enough to meet minimum wage for 60 hours a week as another poster said then again the stay at home parent would be fine.

[flopsyrabbit1]

its always the same speach, im sure its always copied and pasted

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

Exactly nesh

I dont think its rude making stupid comments kitten i just ignore them...90% of women going back to work is a dereadful idea!!

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

Oh sorry

90% of women going back 2 weeks after giving birth is a dreadful idea!!!!

Oops!

[Walkingdeadfangirl]

I just don't get how some people still think they should be entitled to free money benefits and get offended when they are expected to look for work. #benefitsculture

[LakieLady]

Yup, tax credits are basically a bung to employers so they can pay low wages and know their employees are topped up by benefits paid from other taxpayers. The same with housing benefit - it sets a floor on rents and pays the mortgages of BTL landlords.

Plus, forcing both parents to work will increase the pool of available labour and help keep wages down.

This government are constantly trying to disguise their ideology by claiming economic necessity.

[UnsolicitedCockPics]

Plus, forcing both parents to work will increase the pool of available labour and help keep wages down....This government are constantly trying to disguise their ideology by claiming economic necessity

Yep spot on Lakielady

[Rufusthebewilderedreindeer]

ike I say. right wing troll, report away for personal attacks or whatever but most people reading will agree

So you think ivos post was fine?

Im just being nosy now

[PiperPublickOccurrences]

It's not reasonable to expect the state to fund your choice to not work when you are perfectly capable of doing so.

totally agree with this. Being a SAHP is a choice. If you can afford as a couple for one of you to stay at home, great. If you can only afford it because you're claiming benefits, not fine.

And the argument "well tax credits used to allow it and things shouldn't change" is even more ridiculous.

[Awwlookatmybabyspider]

well lone parents are forced to work why should it be different for married/partnered parents.

[Justanotherlurker]

Plus, forcing both parents to work will increase the pool of available labour and help keep wages down....This government are constantly trying to disguise their ideology by claiming economic necessity

Change the word parents to immigrants, andd you have a full on frothing right wing leave argument.

[Walkingdeadfangirl]

forcing both parents to work will increase the pool of available labour and help keep wages down
So you are saying working tax payers should pay other people not to work?
And no one is forcing anyone to work because you dont have to claim benefits. Its just a sensible condition of claiming benefits from working tax payers, that you do look for work.

[ferrier]

In a hypothetical way (I am well past the age where it's relevant) I would much prefer the money given for 'free ' childcare to be given to me to enable me to stay at home.