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'Period Fairy' supplying painkillers at work

165 replies

NorthernFlowerHouse · 10/10/2018 17:19

Hi all,

Not really an AIBU but I wasn't really sure where to post and I know this is the busiest!

In my work ladies' loo, some period supplies have been left out with a note from 'The Period Fairy' saying to help yourself if needed. I think it's part of a campaign against period poverty which is a great cause and includes boxes of paracetamol.

I'm just a bit concerned whether there might be any legality issues with supplying over the counter painkillers like this- I know that work first aid kits shouldn't contain them in case of allergies but didn't know if this extended to help- yourself supplies.

Does anyone have any ideas?

I just know how kind the lady is who has started this and would hate for her to open herself up to any trouble over a really nice initiative. It's an office environment with no children if that makes a difference. I can't find much online about it and she's off this week.

Thanks!

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Flatasapancakenow · 10/10/2018 23:01

I think the sanitary products are a great idea. Whether someone is using them because of period poverty (yes, it really does exist) or just because they've been caught out / ran out of their own.

OP is only a busy body if she raises the paracetamol issue with her colleagues boss. She could just have a quiet word with the drug fairy instead.

Volant · 10/10/2018 23:04

Something only has to happen like somebody drops a strong or powerful strip of their own tablets on the floor, someone picks it up and assume it belongs to the paracetamol, shoves it in the packet, someone takes them thinking it’s paracetamol and ends up very ill or tripping their nuts off.

That needs a combination at least five separate unlikely facts - that someone with strong tablets is careless enough to drop them and not notice, those tablets coincidentally look like paracetamol, someone else picks them up and doesn't notice that the strip clearly says "NotParacetamol" before putting it in the packet (which coincidentally is half empty and therefore has space for the new strip, which coincidentally fits into the box), and a third person takes them out, again doesn't notice that they're marked "NotParacetamol" and takes them.

Seriously, what are the chances?

Binglebong · 10/10/2018 23:10

Employers CAN and DO supply UNLIMITED free drugs all the time. It's called booze at the Christmas party. Are they liable if some idiot drinks too much? Of course not.

Depressingly there have been cases where the employer was held responsible. It may be that the colleague was underage but it was along those lines.

Userplusnumbers · 10/10/2018 23:13

I don't see how it's a problem, pretty much every office I've worked in has sold paracetamol in the canteen - it doesn't need to be dispensed by a pharmacist.

6SpringCats · 10/10/2018 23:13

We have sanitary products in the ladies loo because it is downstairs and much easier if caught short
The paracetamol would concern me a little as not everyone knows how easy it is to accidentally overdose e.g. if also taking cold sachets that contain it and how little can cause damage

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 10/10/2018 23:19

Gingeredrogers what a dickish thing to sit and think up a whole negative back story for someone doing a kind deed.

SpareASquare · 10/10/2018 23:32

It would actually never occur to me that I 'needed' to do anything about this. I'm not 'that' kind of person. I'd leave it be.

Ollivander84 · 10/10/2018 23:35

I supply pads, tampons and baby wipes in our toilets at work
We don't have shops anywhere near, and I've had situations where I've come on unexpectedly and needed to clean up
They get used, and replaced

Ollivander84 · 10/10/2018 23:39

User - I just put a box with stuff in. Pads, tampons, baby wipes. Think there's also spray antiperspirant in there and some hand cream. People also seem to stick samples of stuff in and they get taken and used and replaced. Like a swap shop I guess!

ElizaCBennett · 11/10/2018 00:20

TheHodgeoftheHedge The word has gone bat shit crazy.

I couldn’t put it better myself!

NorthernFlowerHouse · 11/10/2018 07:38

I think Whisky2014 and one or two others going on about 'batshit' and ' the nanny state' have completely missed the point of the thread. Which is to try and look out for someone doing a good deed, not 'dictate' to them.

Thanks to others for the more useful responses.

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NorthernFlowerHouse · 11/10/2018 08:36

User1736 I'm not entirely sure, tbh, I think the initial idea has come from the organisation i mentioned but we have a small pot of money for stuff like this to make the office a bit healthier so funds might've come from that.

There's an honesty tin for contributions (with a pink fairy on, naturally!)

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Whisky2014 · 11/10/2018 12:15

I didnt say "batshit" but i am in despair at this. I havent misunderstood but i think you are blowing tbis out of proportion. If you dont say anything i bet there's 0 chance of it being a problem. You are creating a problem by sticking you nose in all under the guise of "protecting" this woman. Yeh yeh whatever. I dont believe it.

SomeKnobend · 11/10/2018 12:25

I agree with Whisky2014. You're not saving her any problems, you're making problems where there don't need to be any.

NorthernFlowerHouse · 11/10/2018 12:51

So you are both certain there are no potential legal or liability issues with medication being left freely available in a workplace toilet? That's what I am asking.

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Blackoutblinds · 11/10/2018 12:55

HSE recommendation is no painkillers in a workplace first aid kit. Here. www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg214.pdf

I honestly would stick to that for safety’s sake. There must be a reason they’re saying that.

NorthernFlowerHouse · 11/10/2018 13:08

Thanks Blackout Its useful to have that to refer to

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 11/10/2018 13:09

The 'period fairy' should remove that note, leave whatever supplies she wants to leave and take no responsibility for it. That way she's not issuing them or expected to. I agree with Whiskey's points on this.

There are vending machines in ladies toilets where women can buy however many tablets they want - nobody takes responsibility for that either.

OP - say nothing, do nothing (other than suggest to PF that she might want to whip that note away).

Blackoutblinds · 11/10/2018 13:12

I’ve never seen tablets in a vending machine in the ladies.

Gingerrogered · 11/10/2018 13:15

Tablets in vending machines are secure and correctly labelled on vending which is very different from some random tablet blisters knocking about.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 11/10/2018 13:18

Which is why PF should do no more than 'helpful littering'...

Gingerrogered · 11/10/2018 13:32

That needs a combination at least five separate unlikely facts

that someone with strong tablets is careless enough to drop them and not notice

I assume you’ve never taken extremely strong painkillers. It’s perfectly possible they would be dropped. Even when I was on bog standard codeine I was dozy as fuck and constantly losing things. If I take hydrocodone or Amitriptylline I could quite easily lose one of my children and not notice if they weren’t constantly grabbing me and going ‘Mummy, Mummy, Mummy’ a billionty times a second’, let alone a strip of tablets. Most people take them in the loo for privacy and they are easy to drop.

those tablets coincidentally look like paracetamol, someone else picks them up and doesn't notice that the strip clearly says "NotParacetamol" before putting it in the packet

I think most people who saw a packet of tablets next to a tablet box would just tidy them into them without examining them.

(which coincidentally is half empty and therefore has space for the new strip, which coincidentally fits into the box)

Tablet boxes come half empty and tablet strips don’t differ much in size

and a third person takes them out, again doesn't notice that they're marked "NotParacetamol" and takes them.

Do you examine every single strip of tablets you take? I certainly don’t if the box says something I just tend to take it.

It’s the sort of thing that’s not hugely likely but it is potentially an issue. But an employer has to look at cost/benefit to see if it’s worthwhile. And the answer to that is that it is not worth facilitating female employees making a minuscule saving to avoid minor discomfort they could avoid by being more organised when the cost to the company could be huge if something went wrong. It’s just a no brainier.

Gingerrogered · 11/10/2018 14:09

Gingeredrogers what a dickish thing to sit and think up a whole negative back story for someone doing a kind deed.

Actually I’ve come across people who do this kind of ‘kind deed’ in offices before. It’s never really about doing a kind deed itself, it’s because they want to be seen and be noticed to be doing a kind deed.

It’s always the latest fad, is performed in a way deliberately showy way so that it will be noticed and people will talk about how ‘kind’ she (it is always a she) is and it’s usually of sod all benefit to anybody because it’s done in response to a news story or campaign. And they’re always the sort of person that if you need a genuine favour off which will immeasurably help someone but won’t get them any attention, add to their general enjoyment of drama or gild their vision of their own loveliness they’re just not interested. And they can turn quite nasty if they don’t think a colleague has been sufficiently appreciative of their bountifulness.

I’ve actually managed a several of these types over the years and many of their colleagues regard them as overbearing pains in the arse who will draw attention to other people’s personal problems just because they want to advertise how kind and giving they are being to ‘poor Emily in accounts, she has the most horrendous periods you know, bleeds 2 weeks out of every 3’.

The people I’ve worked with who’ve been the kindest and most caring things for their colleagues would always do them in almost total secrecy and I would only occasionally find out about them because their colleagues sometimes felt they needed to let someone senior know how much they had been supported often through difficult times. I’ve been told before that a colleague, without being asked, helped another colleague in the last months of her husband’s life by making sure she had a prepared cold lunch and a home cooked dinner to stick in the microwave every single day along with checking her breakfast and household supplies and making sure she had things like toilet roll and washing up liquid and another did all her laundry for her and popped in to help with the housework and both of them helped with her (very small) children. Genuine kindness and neither told a soul, let alone make up some self aggrandising ‘fairy’ story about themselves.

That’s partly why attention seeking do-gooders have to do these rather random not particularly useful acts. They’re never really the person colleagues would confide in if they had period pains. They’d have to tell people they’d done a good deed so would gossip about it.

Oh! And every single one of them would be straight into the office in a flash if a colleague did something pleasant and they felt their ‘good fairy, lady bountiful’ titles were threatened. Bring a cake on? Straight down to the manager complaining about no allergens label. Birthday buns? Contain milk and eggs? Well that’s not inclusive as allergies are a disability. Give a colleague a lift? Complains it shouldn’t be allowed as you might discuss work and she’d be out of the loop.

Honestly - they’re such a type. They’re also usually shit at their jobs and spend most of their time chatting, internet shopping or messaging their mates or making twee internet fairy baskets. They think ‘but everybody says I’m lovely’ is a defence against an appraisal that says ‘You’ve only done about a week’s worth of work in the last year’.

Like I said. Several of them. Fucking pains. Big time form with me. Real kindness doesn’t demand attention.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 11/10/2018 14:50

That's not my experience, Ginger but if it's yours then I can understand why you're posting as you do. It would be very annoying, I agree.

In my experience, somebody would buy a box of tampons because they need them, leave them in the loo and just say 'tampons in the loo if anyone needs them'... nothing more said. Someone else might reciprocate with a pack of towels and a 'basket' scenario develops. It becomes the 'office basket' and whatever else is put in there is fair game for anybody who needs it. Nobody talks about it.

Ollivander84 · 11/10/2018 14:54

Ginger - really?! Nobody knows it was me who started it and nobody knows who keeps it stocked