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To go out when my MIL visits

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noideawhattocallmyself · 10/10/2018 13:24

My OH can be an utter man-child when he gets stressed at work - most of the time he's OK but from time to time he just reverts to doing very little. He has some MH issues (anxiety / depression) and I know I've enabled some of it by trying to take the pressure off him.
Basically he grew up with dad going to work mum doing everything in the house so I guess it's his norm from that perspective but it's not normally the norm in our relationship.
I work full time, we have 3 children and recently I've basically been doing everything else as well, so we've had a grown up discussion and he admits he's been selfish and focused elsewhere - fine - all under control and he's addressing it - good.
His mum phones him at least every other night, if he doesn't answer she phones his mobile or sends him facebook messages. Says she's worried and she was about to phone the police. At Xmas we were at the in-laws and she spent all day telling him nothing was good enough for him (gave him extra pudding to everyone else which just made me laugh actually said nothing is good enough for my boy - emphasis on 'my' just to make sure I know my place :)) and spent a good half hour stroking his hair.
This week she has phoned him and when he answered he was tired so not full of the joys, straight after the call she sent him a message to say she was worried and to remember 'you're still my baby boy and I'm worried'
So I know I'm stressed because of picking too much up when he's been struggling but I really want to just be out of the house when she visits because firstly to me this is what's enabled him acting like he's another child and secondly I find her over-investment in his life and feelings weird - she tells him how gorgeous he is and how no-one is good enough for him and how she hated the day he got married because she'd lost him etc etc and I've had enough - he's 50 FFS and we've been married over 20 years.
Either tell me I'm being a b*tch and I should put up with it or validate my decision to get the heck out when she's around :)

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Feellikeimthemaid · 10/10/2018 14:33

I got to the end where you revealed his age and I nearly spit my tea out!!! Just yuck!

Have you tried any comments when she refers to him as her 'baby boy' such as "for goodness sake MIL, he's a 50yo father of 3, stop treating him like a child".

This would seriously freak me out.

ohfourfoxache · 10/10/2018 14:37

The hair stroking wouldn’t bother me (I’m 35 and my mum will still stroke my hair if we have a cuddle)

But holy FUCK Shock - what the hell is all this “my little boy” shit? And as for saying no one is good enough for him, is she on glue?

Whatsthisbear · 10/10/2018 14:38

she tells him how gorgeous he is and how no-one is good enough for him

I would have said long ago “actually I’m more than good enough” . Grin

NobodysChild · 10/10/2018 14:41

My partners mother was always referring to him as 'my hero'. Also always bleating on about how nothing was good enough for her 'hero', referencing me, without actually saying as much. Had very similar to you without the hair stroking, but always texting/calling saying she was worried about him.One day while she was visiting our home, she again mentioned how nothing was good enough for her hero son. The red mist descended and I tore into her. Told her to get out and take her hero with her, pick up his hero's cape on the way out, wrap him up in cotton wool and stroke each others egos.This was 6 years ago and I've never had her back since. You need to have words with your MIL and your husband, about how it's not normal behaviour. Don't leave your house, just don't have her round.

ohfourfoxache · 10/10/2018 14:44

When (now) dh and I first started going out she told us both that she wished he would make eyes at her in the way he made eyes at me.

Everybody ready? BOAK 🤮

rockinsockbunniess · 10/10/2018 14:46

I know she's OTT but be grateful for her. I lost my MIL recently and although she wound me up at the time I do miss her now.

ohfourfoxache · 10/10/2018 14:51

I’m sorry for your loss rockin Thanks

But not everyone is the same. Some people are lovely, some are a nightmare you get everything in between. Same applies to MILs

0lgaDaPolga · 10/10/2018 14:57

She’s a lunatic and he is ridiculous for enabling this. I honestly thought reading this that he was early-mid twenties and even then it was a bit strange but he is 50?! Does he enjoy this level of attention from her? It is not normal and I don’t blame you for not wanting to be around it

noideawhattocallmyself · 10/10/2018 15:44

Oh Lord he hates it - Ngaio - you're right I'm sure all of his MH problems are due to her.
No-one ever says anything to her because she's supposedly 'fragile' - FIL gives in to every whim and she's basically a 70 year old spoilt brat - normally me and OH laugh about her frankly strange behaviour but recently he's really struggled.
There are some things she's said that I've honestly not responded to because I couldn't believe she said something that bizarre or unthinking. Other things I have absolutely pulled her up on (apparently she finds me intimidating - good! :) )
Everything has to be on her terms or she sulks / reacts (she has form for lots of attention seeking actions) she doesn't know about OH's MH because she would be even worse (and I'm sure somehow it would be my fault etc)
Thanks everyone - glad to know I'm not over-reacting (though worryingly I'm probably under-reacting)

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NWQM · 10/10/2018 16:05

You need a shared strategy and a plan. Normally i don’t ever suggest going no contact as I think it’s actually quite hard to achieve for most people in real life but sounds as if you and your DH need a break.

GiraffeObsessedBaby · 10/10/2018 16:12

I'm sorry I can't get passed stroked his hair...

AnnieAnoniMouse · 10/10/2018 17:58

It’s really not hard to see why HE is fragile, has MH issues and depression. He didn’t stand a chance.

However, YOU need to deal with this before you need two spaces under the patio.

Tell him you’ve reached the end of your tether. Either he sorts his mother out, or you will. Tell him her being ‘fragile’ and treating him like he’s made of finely spun gold is just wrong. Ask him WTAF he allows her to tell him YOU are not good enough for him & why he allows her to baby him and treat him like a small child - stroking his hair for half an hour, it’s creepy. Tell him he nScot stop her run hung every on 5 bloody minutes and ‘worrying’ if he doesn’t an answer the phone immediately. He lives with YOU, he doesn’t need her checking he’s alive every other day FFS.

Tell him it’s unsexy, it’s pissing you off and it stops now, because a grown man acting like toddler is nothing something you’re going to tolerate any more. IF he wants her to baby him, he’s welcome to go and live with his parents.

You married a MAN, not a toddler.

Also, warn him that if he doesn’t pull her up on stuff, you will.

Put your foot down.

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 10/10/2018 18:51

Your MIL sounds like a complete narcissist, it is likely that she thrives on the fact that her family indulge her demanding behaviour, she also has an unhealthy attachment son.

All credit to you that you have actually put up with all of this behaviour for 20 years. It must be incredibly difficult and frustrating.

Your husband may say he hates his mothers behaviour but at 50 years of age he has been conditioned to it and he might enjoy being adulated and infantalised. Allowing weird things like half an hour of head stroking and accepting inappropriate comments like it how no one is good enough for him without challenging her encourages her behaviour.

Your DH needs to set long overdue boundaries and healthily detach from his mother.

man child when he gets stressed at work
I work full time, we have 3 children and recently I've basically been doing everything else as well
We have had a grown up discussion

The above comments sound like you have unwittingly fallen in to a almost parental role with him too, it is quite understandable as you are trying to support him and his mental health but he could also be far too comfortable with this pattern.

SpankTheMonkey · 10/10/2018 18:58

She is only worried because he is allowing her to be. He needs to do his part in sorting it

This. The only way it will stop is if she has nothing to worry about

She is suffering anxiety - because he is suffering mental health issues

You never heard the saying 'a mother can only be as happy as her least happy kid' - even in adulthood it is true

noideawhattocallmyself · 10/10/2018 19:28

wow Annie that's odd - I have done exactly this this evening - told him if it doesn't change I can't live with him as even though I love him I deserve better. I have wondered if she's a narcissist - hate to diagnose but it's hard not to. One example is when my mum was diagnosed with a quite serious condition she did something pretty much 2 weeks later which put all the attention on her (and nearly got her arrested).
I think I've made the mistake of feeling sorry for her some of the time as her life does seem very empty (other than Dr's appointments which she loves - she's had every test known to man and has concluded that she must have something so rare they can't diagnose it) but I realise now that is not either my or OH's responsibility.
So thank you everyone - you gave me the courage and push to tackle it with him and whilst we've a long way to go I think if I hadn't I'd be moving out soon (or chucking him out to live with her - all her wildest dreams would come true :) )

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LoniceraJaponica · 10/10/2018 19:36

Read this thread
I wonder if his mum was like this when he was growing up.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 10/10/2018 19:41

He’s 50. High time he grew up. Put your foot down hard!

IAmRubbishAtDIY · 10/10/2018 19:48

He's 50!!!!!!!!

GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

That's the funniest thing I heard in ages!!!!!!!

crosstalk · 10/10/2018 19:57

OP I agree it's nauseating behaviour from a 70 year old mother to a 50 year old child. I can totally get why you want to be out of there so not to have to witness it.

I think you have to prompt him in to talking with her. Discuss what he finds most depressing or annoying and a way to broach it with her. "Ma, can you not phone/text me every day - it's quite oppressive" - "I'm 50 with a job, wife and family that I love - and as much as I love you too, they're my main concern." Whatever. This I think is the one time you can justify leaving the house when she comes.

Otherwise, you seem to be managing fine - you stand up to her - so is what brought this to a head? her impact on his MH and trying to counteract his belief women do everything for him?

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