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To ask what you'd rather from a prospective employee?

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PoesyCherish · 04/10/2018 18:22

I have posted numerous times about being off sick / work refusing to put the recommended adjustments (by access to work and occu health) in place to help so I don't want to go into details here but I'll put links to my previous threads at the bottom of this one.

Realistically speaking, my job isn't working out for me because of my disability and I have two options - to hand in my notice now, or to go off on long term sick until I find a new job.

In terms of finding a new job, what would you rather if you were a prospective employers - somebody who's on long term sick or somebody who's unemployed?

I obviously wouldn't be looking for an identical role elsewhere but I still don't want a prospective employer thinking badly of me. I don't know what to do for the best.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3378276-to-not-want-to-go-back-to-work-after-being-off-sick

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3382706-to-go-on-long-term-sick

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WTAFIGO · 04/10/2018 19:37

Prospective employers cannot ask how much time you have had off sick so they will never know. They will however be fully aware if you are unemployed. Go off sick as you will continue to accrue holiday pay and have continuity of employment. I would also explore the third option of a negotiated exit and seek a settlement agreement.

EmmaC78 · 04/10/2018 19:38

Unemployed definately.

WTAFIGO · 04/10/2018 19:43

BTW I am an employment solicitor so please don't just resign, there is no need to do so, they will never know about your sickness record. People will answer the limited either/or options you have proposed here but they aren't your real life options at all

Buggerbrexit · 04/10/2018 19:53

We’re you not able to get the workstation through access to work?

TedAndLola · 04/10/2018 19:58

Oh, two weeks? That's not long-term sick in my book! I was thinking you meant months (sorry, probably should have read your thread).

I wouldn't mention the sickness. There's no gap on your CV, so all you need is to come up with a vague reason that you're leaving your current job - expanding into a different sector, need a new challenge, blah blah.

There is a risk your current company would mention in a reference that you had two weeks off sick, but I'm responsible for hiring and it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Two weeks would suggest to me you had a minor operation with recovery time, not that you're going to be off sick all the time.

I don't think you need to worry. Good luck with the job hunt.

PoesyCherish · 04/10/2018 20:08

Ahh no @TedAndLola I meant long term going forwards.

@lexi727 but that's just it, I'm not able to actually be at work in my current job. So it feels like my only two options whilst looking for another job are to continue being employed whilst in reality off sick, or to just hand in my notice

Yes @Buggerbrexit but long story short (I went into more detail last time) work still wouldn't get it for me.

@WTAFIGO what's a resettlement agreement?

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hula008 · 04/10/2018 20:08

You'd never have to say you were off long term sick. I don't know how your company would feel about you looking for a job whilst being paid sick pay though? They may find out when they are asked for a reference

PoesyCherish · 04/10/2018 20:21

@hula008 wouldn't it be too late at that point though? They don't pay full pay either just SSP- isn't SSP a drop in the ocean to a huge corporate company? I know that's not the point but I would feel a lot more guilty if they paid more than SSP.

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DianaT1969 · 04/10/2018 20:22

2 weeks is nothing and you didn't have much time off in your previous role.
I take it there is no other non-computer role within the same company?
Such a shame for you to have to leave.

I'm confused by this
Prospective employers cannot ask how much time you have had off sick so they will never know.
I receive external reference requests (I'm not HR, but a line manager, so it's rare that I complete them) which include the question 'How many days sickness in the last year'. I answer it.
Another question is 'Would you hire this person again?'
Good luck in your job hunt OP, but I don't think you have a major problem with the sickness issue. Hopefully you find something quickly. Possibly a seasonal temp job til Christmas?

hula008 · 04/10/2018 20:38

wouldn't it be too late at that point though? They don't pay full pay either just SSP- isn't SSP a drop in the ocean to a huge corporate company? I know that's not the point but I would feel a lot more guilty if they paid more than SSP.

I don't think they'd bother claiming back any sick pay if they found out. I suppose I was thinking more about if you wanted to keep things civil with them, but tbh is seems like you don't have to, with everything they've put you through and how resistant they've been to adaptations.

ChaosMoon · 04/10/2018 20:39

The problem is, employers don't have to give feedback if they don't offer an interview. Only off they've interviewed and not appointed. So absolutely, they shouldn't discriminate because of a disability at any stage of the process. But in reality, it's much harder to prove at application stage. (I know, it sucks.)

If you're asked why you left at interview, you can explain as you did above. The fact that you've come to this decision before being to go on long term sick will stand in your favour with a good employer.

PoesyCherish · 04/10/2018 21:09

But in reality, it's much harder to prove at application stage.

Isn't that a reason for long term sick instead of unemployment then @ChaosMoon

@hula008 would they even be able to claim back SSP if they wanted to? Technically you can be too ill to work but well enough to attend one job interview.

No other non computer based role available within the company @DianaT1969

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ChaosMoon · 05/10/2018 08:01

Sorry @PoesyCherish, I meant it would be harder for you to prove that there had been discrimination if they don't offer you an interview.

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