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AIBU to just have completely lost my shit at OH?

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User761 · 02/10/2018 13:14

I've just been a horrible bastard, and I'm not proud of it. I'm completely lost as to what to do though, nothing works.

For a bit of background, I suffer two illnesses that cause fatigue - so my existence is pretty much one of battling extreme fatigue where every single thing in my day takes about 50 x more effort than it ever used to. I'm tired of being tired, tired of battling illness, and tired of battling my OH on top. I try my very best to just push on, but there are of course bad days. I work full time, I'm run down because of my illnesses and work stress, I'm working overtime and just had to take
short A/L to try and recoup and catch up on things. In short, I'm not very well.

OH works full time. Higher earner, so does contribute more to bills. I'm in debt, which I'm now trying to sort. But what can I say, I'm just stressed, tired and feel like giving up.

So, the actual problem... house work. I do all the washing, drying folding washing etc every day, his job is to do the dishes, each day. He will pick up a hoover, tidy and sweep of his own accord. It's mostly me who mows the lawns, does shopping etc.

My problem is, though the household jobs were agreed, he doesn't stick to it. Dirty dishes will be left piling up in the sink for days, getting in the way of me able to use the sink without emptying it all and putting it back. I can't just go and cook a dinner, as we're short on pots and pans, cutlery, and space because often the dirty dishes aren't just in the sink, they're accumulating over the kitchen sides, too. I find it disgusting - it's dirty, messy, gets in the way and means that unless I'm prepared to do the dishes on top of the other things I do, when it's supposed to be his job, I simply can't even cook a decent meal as all the kitchen ware is dirty. I have tried speaking to him nicely about it, twice this week in fact - he agreed and has just 'forgotten', AGAIN. I always try talking about it, explaining that it doesn't feel fair, and it's actually hindering me being able to do things like cook dinner or use the sink to fill a bucket of water etc. Last time I washed all the windows in the house, I told him it was his turn next - he didn't want to so said he'd hire a window cleaner - this was 4 months ago. He keeps forgetting... despite my constant nagging.

I'm tired of nagging. We're both messy people, I'm ill and just trying my best to get through my own shit, I don't have the energy for his as well. I've told him this.

I shouted, swore at him about it today. Bins full, so rather than have to empty the kitchen bin he's left a pizza box with left over food on the kitchen counter - meaning foods left about all day unless I do it, of course. Told him that since he was on late I'd now have to do his job of washing all the dishes as well as my own stuff before I could cook dinner... his response was "So?". I called him a sexist pig thinking it was my job to use my A/L doing his jobs as well as my own. I also called him a cunt. I'm not proud. I'm at the end of my tether.

I've spent my A/L so far getting blood tests, unblocking drains, hoovering up, doing deep clean on washing machine and getting washing/drying done, shopping orders, cleaning kitchen. I wanted to go out today to take some clothes to the charity shop and go visit a store I like. It takes a long time by bus. I feel overwhelmed and like I won't have time to do this, on top of everything else.

Sorry it's long. Please be kind, but very honest. Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Happygummibear · 02/10/2018 13:50

What a slob. This is not normal and he is not being fair to you.

I have known people to be messy and I don't understand it. I am far from being a neat freak but the dishwasher gets done every day and dishes etc go away almost straight away.

Perhaps look at getting a cleaner to help with the harder tasks so you can concerntrate on the other stuff.

User761 · 02/10/2018 13:52

I think i'll raise the idea of a cleaner with him tbh. I'd feel sorry for the poor cleaner! Even if I have to sort it/arrange etc. I need a break - I feel like I'm heading for a break down, just struggling to keep my head above water. Xx

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Thatstheendofmytether · 02/10/2018 13:53

YANBU OP, my house is like this no one does anything at all except me, they expect me to serve them every single thing they want and pick up after them constantly. This doesn't bother me with the kids because they are kids, but when my dp texts on the way home from football at 9.45 at night after I've done all the house work, making dinner, clearing up, kids bedtime. On my own and he says stick my dinner and a bath on eh? (No please or thanks) I feel like smaking him in the face. I tell him exactly what I think of him most nights but he doesn't change, he's just happy leaving me to fo absolutely everything and he knows I will because of the kids and the fact I can't stand the house being messy.
I don't have any illnesses and it pisses me off no end so you are perfectly justified.
I'm angry just typing all of that.
I say all the time I will stop doing his washing and cooking etc but I never do. More fool me.

Spreadingcudweed · 02/10/2018 13:54

That all sounds very tough going for you op. I hope you can talk to your DH and buy in the support you need so you can get back on reasonable form Flowers. Don't ask permission though just state calmly what needs to happen.

Thatstheendofmytether · 02/10/2018 13:54

Yes OP you said he has a good paying job so tell him to pay for a cleaner to do it if he won't.

GreyCloudsToday · 02/10/2018 13:56

Get a cleaner and a gardener. Ask your partner to pay as you are unwell and in debt, and he is not doing his share which is making a horrible house that drags you down.

Massively drop your standards - you have limited energy and it's important to spend it on stuff that makes you feel good, not washing the windows.

You sound like you need to cut down your working hours - do you have to do overtime? Are you debts manageable? You matter, and your health matters.

Spreadingcudweed · 02/10/2018 13:57

I can think of some "creative" answers in response to one of those texts from your DH Thatstheendofmytether Grin Grin

MegMez · 02/10/2018 14:03

GGarden – get an ad in the local paper or on a local facebook page or wherever for a regular gardener, book them in fortnightly (or whatever it takes) and pay a little bit each time. There’s no chasing up, no phoning – it’s a regular appointment. Maybe you’ve got a neighbour or a teenager who needs pocket money who’ll do it for you. You can’t be getting into a situation where you piddle off a landlord. Same with a window cleaner, get them booked in regularly. It’s not free but it keeps you on top of it.

House – I thoroughly recommend The Organised Mum Method. Check out the blog as it explains it all. There are other people in the facebook group who live with various conditions that cause fatigue or pain so are limited and it really makes a difference to have some focus for household cleaning. It’s also helped me stay on top of the jobs that my kids do in the house. The more I do, the more my husband seems to do which is nice. He does the garden, DIY, very little else but I do work from home and it’s easier this way. He does cook dinner sometimes and does the big food shop. It’s great that you’ve agreed on certain jobs for each of you but if he’s not doing his it’s just not working.

Not saying that you have to do everything but the washing up is daily and constant and if it’s building up all of the time then I’d just do it myself and make him do another job that you struggle with but that’s not so obvious on a day to day, hour by hour basis.

You both work full time so it’s absolutely NOT FAIR or right that you do more than him, regardless of the money he’s earning. Being better paid doesn’t entitle him to less input at home if you’re working the same hours, especially if you live with fatigue. Yes, it might mean you contribute less to a joint account but at home you should be equals and what you’ve got going on at the moment isn’t working.

FurryBuzzer · 02/10/2018 14:03

"He asks me to leave post it notes on his computer to remind him"

But he could put post it notes on the computer, or write it on his hand, or set a reminder on his phone (that's what I did this morning!)

I have a lot of sympathy as I'm gearing up for a similar conversation with DH. So here's my advice (which I'll also try to follow!)

Ok, he doesn't 'remember' things but then he needs strategies to help him remember. Like I'm sure he does at work as he's in a good job.

I would talk about it at a time when you're both calm and explain how upsetting and exhausting it is. (I like the link pp posted about what the dirty glass represents.)

Explain that he's making you really unhappy. You don't like losing your temper and arguing and you want to avoid it. You've tried everything you can think of so you'd like him to work on a solution that resolves things for you both. It doesn't mean everything has to be done your way (I'm pretty messy too!) But it does mean things have to change because in a relationship at the very least, you both try and prevent the other person being unhappy if it's in your power to do so.

Then honestly, I'd leave it with him. Would it help to give it two weeks to see how it's going then regroup?

Good luck!

WhatchaMaCalllit · 02/10/2018 14:06

Send him this - www.scarymommy.com/emma-you-shouldve-asked-mental-load/

Why are you being his 'manager' at home? Isn't he able to manage himself at home?

Rudgie47 · 02/10/2018 14:07

OP why are you staying with him? What respect does he have for you and himself if hes prepared for the home to be total squalor.

Why don't you just leave him? Then he can become a total tramp and not drag you down any further.

Spaghettijumper · 02/10/2018 14:11

If you believe that he 'doesn't remember' then you're delusional, sorry. How could he forget a job that happens every single day and that is visible at all times in his kitchen?

If someone who claims to love you absolutely refuses to be a partner to you and is happy to see you struggle then you have to wonder what they mean by 'love' - most decent people wouldn't treat a vague acquaintance with such contempt.

You can and should expect better for yourself.

PickAChew · 02/10/2018 14:11

He might not care about being surrounded by mess, but he'd soon be bothered by running out of clean clothes.

Theorbo · 02/10/2018 14:15

This sounds so needlessly stressful. If he has problems remembering stuff then it’s for him to stick postits where he will see them, not you. You arent his PA.
if there’s enough money around to afford a cleaner and a gardener then I’d go for it. You need to conserve your energy not be trying to keep the house clean , especially when DH is actually making that virtually impossible.

What positive things do you get out of the relationship. If the cleaning and gardening situations were taken out of the equation, would you be happy with him as your partner.

babswindsor · 02/10/2018 14:16

OP YANBU. I used to have a DP like that. He is an ex now. I hope you feel a bit better soon.x

Alwayscheerful · 02/10/2018 14:17

Try Dishwasher
Cleaner
Gardener
Window cleaner
Disposable plates and cutlery, easy tray baked meals with vegetables and potatoes or one pot casserole.
If the above fail, leave him and live a simple life on your own, don't waste your energy arguing with him -conserve your energy and to live a happy life.

Spaghettijumper · 02/10/2018 14:18

You should be aware that there are plenty of men out there who in your situation would take over everything in the house and not allow their ill partner to lift a finger, because they love their partner and they don't want to see them have one minute of suffering. If I'm feeling even vaguely under the weather my DH won't let me do anything - to the point where I find it quite annoying! That said I do the same for him - we both look out for each other because that's what partners do

Spaghettijumper · 02/10/2018 14:21

Oh and while I don't think it's at all surprising that you lost your shit (it's more surprising that it didn't happen before now tbh) I think you're wasting your time getting angry about it. I think the next thing you say to your OH is that you've had enough and you're leaving. And mean it.

Kemer2018 · 02/10/2018 14:23

Don't have kids with this man. It would be the final straw.

Have you considered a divorce?

AtLeastThreeDrinks · 02/10/2018 14:23

It's not really your job, but if he's asking for a list can you sit down together and make a list of what needs to be done daily/weekly/monthly? Then leave it somewhere he'll see it every day. Even turn it into a tick-off calendar if that's what's going to get him motivated. Then make it clear that you will not be reminding him of what needs to be done because he's an adult who seems to manage the rest of his life ok.

He sounds lazy and uncaring, and you deserve better, but short-term a solution like this might help.

Pigletpoglet · 02/10/2018 14:27

I read a technique on here that I have since used very successfully with my DC. Whenever a mess is left and 'forgotten', make the responsible person come and look at it, then look at you and say, out loud, 'Fuck you, I couldn't be bothered'. Very powerful...

ThanksHunkyJesus · 02/10/2018 14:28

*He left the house without saying a word/engaging, which probably takes a lot of willpower to not resort to shouting back.

For some reason I'm always the one ending up feeling guilty and saying sorry, and that doesn't feel fair*

You realise he is doing this entirely on purpose don't you? You think that by him not arguing back he is being nice to you. What he's actually doing is leaving you to feel like you're the bad guy because you're the one who wants the stuff done. He's happy for you to sit there feeling like crap because of what he's done. Why does he need to say anything to you? You are beating yourself up enough for everybody.

He's a lazy entitled shit. There is no way on this earth he is forgetting to do all the things he agreed to do, he is just very happy to leave you to do them and the only consequence is you moaning at him every now and again. For the rest of the time he's free and clear knowing that everything is being taken care of by you, the person he is supposed to love and care for, while you are struggling to work full-time with 2 debilitating illnesses and do everything in the house. Why doesn't he care enough about you to support you through this time? He should be taking as much off your plate as possible, so that you can concentrate on resting and prolonging your health for as long as you can.

I entirely disagree with the solutions of get a cleaner and make lists etc. He's not a child being made to do chores. He can look around and see exactly what needs doing but he is choosing not to and no amount of lists is going to change that as you have already found out. I think you need a more permanent solution, put yourself first and move out.

EmNetta · 02/10/2018 14:30

No, you're not BU about losing it, but I do think you're BU for putting up with this life, and that it would be worthwhile asking your family for help to leave.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 02/10/2018 14:31

Move out. Find a small flat with no garden that's easy to keep clean. Buy ready meals, stop doing overtime.

I would imagine your health might improve a bit. As it is you are risking ending up in bed permanently. Seriously, nothing is more important than your health.

Tell your DP if he wants to move in with you he does so on your terms, no second chances if he goes back to his old ways.

dueanotherchange · 02/10/2018 14:32

@Thatstheendofmytether please tell me you don't comply with these texts?

My DH is a HORRIBLE timekeeper. Horrible. If he wants dinner he needs to be home for it. I don't get upset. I don't nag. I just don't cook.

Last night I got, "We're not doing enough to reduce plastic consumption in this house." to which I responded, "DH, you're doing NOTHING to reduce plastic consumption in this house. I have done quite a lot. And if I want to do more, it's going to start costing more in terms of both time and money. You up for that?"

He shut up then.