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AIBU?

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To ask who was wrong in this driving situation (pic)

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Peacockfeathers789 · 01/10/2018 22:43

Me - Driving along about 25mph. Saw a parked car on the left. Saw no oncoming cars in the other lane so prepared to overtake the parked car

Saw to my right that another car was approaching the junction (soon to be known as shouty man). This was at the same time I was about to overtake the car

As I was going to overtake, I realised that shouty man was not slowing down approaching the junction, he was looking in the other direction for oncoming cars and so I feared he hadn’t seen me and was going to pull straight out to turn left, so I hit the brake sharply and stopped just before the parked car.

Shouty man pulled out as I’d expected (so glad I stopped) and then slowed down to come level with me, I pulled down my window and he started having a huge rant how it was his effing right of way and that I clearly can’t effing drive. I was pretty pissed off as I nearly hit the parked car and said in retaliation that he needed to stop assuming he can pull out willy nilly at junctions and that if I crashed it would have been his fault. He then told me to sod off and drove way

Anyway I don’t actually know if I was in the right or wrong, I would accept it if I wasn’t and at least I can learn for the future

To ask who was wrong in this driving situation (pic)

OP posts:

FaithInfinity · 01/10/2018 22:44

Was he at a ‘Give way’ junction ?

cardibach · 01/10/2018 22:45

You were in the right. Vehicle already in the road has right of way over the joiner. Plus you anticipated his wankerishness anyway so there’s no way you are wrong.

Homemenu1 · 01/10/2018 22:45

He was, and he’s a twat

forgottenusername · 01/10/2018 22:46

is there a give way line at the junction on his bit of the road? there's a similar t-junction near us that has no give way lines either way so its a bit of a free for all!

he was in the wrong for being shouty though, no need for that

tinyme77 · 01/10/2018 22:46

I think that youu are in the right (were you indicating?). The car shouldn't have been parked there.

Catcrazy008 · 01/10/2018 22:47

I thought you were in the wrong as you crossed into his lane to pass car, my husband thinks him, as you give way at junction

StereophonicallyChallenged · 01/10/2018 22:47

Well if you were on the main road and he was turning onto it he should give way and not join until it's clear to do so.

So imo YANBU

JustanotherJP · 01/10/2018 22:48

As long as you were on the main road, you had right of way.

I say that as an advanced driver and a magistrate who sees this sort of thing in court.

Original poster

Peacockfeathers789 · 01/10/2018 22:48

I’m not sure if it was a giveaway, I will have to check next time I’m around there

To be fair, parked car was BVU for being parked right there! 😂

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Whereismumhiding2 · 01/10/2018 22:49

You had right of way. He's a bad driver. Lucky you anticipated his bad driving and slowed/ stopped in time.
Saved yourself the pain and trouble of an accident, even if his insurance would have had to pay.

Hissy · 01/10/2018 22:49

The twat in the parked car was in the wrong!

Shouty man was also in the wrong

You were not.

noego · 01/10/2018 22:52

As he approached the junction. The junction would have either been STOP or GIVE WAY. In any case it doesn't matter. In which case the Highway code would say that he had a responsibility to look both ways to make sure it was safe before entering the main road.
In truth the vehicle parked opposite the junction was parked inconsiderately and possible illegally as it was causing an obstruction as was proved in your skirmish.
in't olden days the parked vehicle could've/would've been nicked.

Graphista · 01/10/2018 22:53

The one most in the wrong is the plank who parked opposite a junction!

Just checked

www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiting-and-parking-238-to-252

Yep dick move!

Next most wrong is the Dick not checking both ways or slowing down at a junction.

You - definitely not at all in the wrong, progressing as safely as possible in the conditions and anticipating dick at junctions dick move!

greensnail · 01/10/2018 22:54

This is one reason why it is dangerous to park opposite a junction. Shouty man was not expecting you to be on the wrong side of the road as he pulled out so was only checking the other direction for cars approaching. You should have been checking for traffic approaching that junction before you overtook the parked vehicle, as you could see that you were having to pass a car that was parked dangerously. Ideally you would both have noticed the danger and driven more cautiously.

UselessEustace · 01/10/2018 22:55

The person who parked on a junction was in the wrong.

The other two of you needed to exercise due dare to avoid a collision while manoeuvring around the illegally parked vehicle.

BubblegumFactory · 01/10/2018 23:01

He was totally wrong.
I don't understand how so many people drive around with no proper idea of the rules of the road.
A friend pullled out once without checking and a car went into her as it was overtaking a bus. She was shocked to discover it was her fault entirely. Insurance company put 100% blame on her.

mum11970 · 01/10/2018 23:02

Exactly as Useless said.

akkakk · 01/10/2018 23:03

despite comments above, british law does not have a principle of right of way on the roads, it has a principle of priority...

this means that effectively, the first person to a bit of road gains that priority, if you both get there at the same time, then the highway code advises who will have priority...

in this situation, neither of you automatically have priority - he can come out of the junction if no cars were coming from his right, as the lane onto which he will exit is free, equally, you can pass the parked car as the opposing lane is free... neither of you has right of way, neither of you has priority... the first of you to take action will gain that priority, and then the other should give way.

as a result, and in understanding that as you approached the situation, you should both have approached being prepared to give way...

you drove better than him as you gave way, he also falls down for being aggressive, so your driving was leagues ahead of his, but no you didn’t have right of way over him...

campion · 01/10/2018 23:14

Graphista is right. Parking opposite a junction is so dangerous yet people do it all the time. Any junction should be approached with caution whether it's explicitly a give way or not. If you're joining another road - as he was- then you should give way.

He was wrong, you were right and there are a lot of entitled, aggressive drivers on the roads.

Cutietips · 01/10/2018 23:27

I had a similar situation when a car pulled out of a side road when I was passing a bicycle. She thought I should have pulled in. I said I would have hit the bicycle. Her insurance company had to pay. She shouldn’t have pulled out without checking there was a clear exit in both directions.

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