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To think that grooming students into casual jobs as 'Sex Workers' is wrong

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theOtherPamAyres · 01/10/2018 00:29

Freshers' Fair for new students at Brighton University featured a 'Sex Workers' stall.

If your son or daughter, fresh out of school, fancied a well paid but highly dangerous casual job then there were tips and leaflets on how to stay safe, and goody bags of lubricants and condoms.

In such a way, the prostitution trade is normalised.

It is sold as an 'empowering', edgy thing and lucrative self-employment. It is marketed with faux concern for young people's safety. (I bet they don't actually reveal the extent of beatings, robberies and rapes of prostituted men and women, though!)

Any young person who might think that sex work isn't all it's cracked up to be will keep their views to themselves, in the face of such enthusiasm and endorsement from the University. No-one wants to be labelled a SW erf (Sex worker exclusionary radical feminist).

Is that what we want for our adult children?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/30/brighton-university-accused-encouraging-prostitution-sex-workers/

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RatRolyPoly · 04/10/2018 06:38

Well yeah Archery, there is. But I'm clarifying how I'm using it, and judging by what others have written on this thread they're using it the same way. No-one here is using "sex work" in the politicised way you oppose.

ArcheryAnnie · 04/10/2018 09:55

No-one here is using "sex work" in the politicised way you oppose.

Sorry, this is still bullshit.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 11:42

sex work in and of itself is a political term, it was invented by the poeple in the industry with money and the aim is to water down / obfuscate the specific harms in particular of prostitution and the gendered nature of it (ie tends to be men buying women).

A person working as a bouncer at a strip club is an example of someone involved in sex work. Cleaners, bar tenders, all sorts of poeple who are not exposed to the risks that prostutes are.

Even stuff like cam work while it has a lot of issues, you're not nearly as likely to be beaten raped or murdered.

The fact that the Cardif study came out with more male students involved in sex work than female feels a bit counter intuitive > although it could be right in which case lots of things that are generally "known" need to be turned on their heads. Which is why I said I'd be very interested in seeing what the questions asked were.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 11:49

Cardif paper is here

www.thestudentsexworkproject.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/TSSWP-Research-Summary-English.pdf

They draw a distinction between "direct" and "indirect" sex work.

"Sex work is defined in terms of ‘the exchange of
sexual services, performances, or products for material
compensation’ (Weitzer 2010:1) and thus refers to a wide
range of possible activities. Throughout the report distinction
is made between direct sex work (popularly understood as
‘prostitution’) and indirect sex work (sexual services that do
not involve a direct and intimate contact with a client such
as erotic dancing, webcam services, porn acting, glamour
modelling). In addition organisational and auxiliary roles
within the sex industry are also taken into account (such as
escort manager or receptionist in a parlour) when measuring
the overall extent of students’ involvement in the sex industry
as a whole."

RatRolyPoly · 04/10/2018 11:49

Sorry, this is still bullshit

Well, it's not. I've told you exactly the way in which I'm using the term, so it's quite patently true for at least one person on this thread.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 11:50

So a pimp is a "sex worker" in this parlance, just in case anyone is wondering.

Which of course has given people like pimp, brothel owners, strip club owners etc s a large voice in lobbying and they speak as "sex workers".

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 11:52

The term sex worker is quite widely defined and in the same way by a large number of org etc amnesty

The definition in the paper is a fairly standard one.

It's good they have differentiated between "direct" and "indirect" as they are very different ball games. The paper is interetsing I'm going to read it.

RatRolyPoly · 04/10/2018 11:52

Telly your second post is exactly the definition I'm using Confused

We're not talking about only prostitution on this thread, we're talking about sex workers! If I meant prostitutes only that's what I would have said Confused

RatRolyPoly · 04/10/2018 11:53

Okay, I'm confused, I can't tell if we agree or disagree... No worries, I'll read that paper too Smile

theOtherPamAyres · 04/10/2018 12:19

Blow jobs are real jobs

That was just one of the placards carried by a (Green Party) student at a recent demonstration to decriminalise the prostitution of women and men. She looked about 20 years old and nothing like the prostituted women that I know and who perform this service to men.

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kesstrel · 04/10/2018 12:47

Telegraph article says 1 in 6 students is in sex work or thinks about turning to sex work. Isn't that a bit different to what's being claimed on this thread?

ArcheryAnnie · 04/10/2018 23:37

The term sex worker is quite widely defined and in the same way by a large number of org etc amnesty

And amnesty have been comprehensively manipulated by the pimp lobby on this, so that tells you everything you need to know.

I still call bullshit on anyone claiming it isn't a deliberately loaded term.

user1497863568 · 05/10/2018 08:35

No way!!

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