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AIBU to ask you to watch two pro-trans videos?

31 replies

Nondescriptname · 30/09/2018 09:29

There are lots of videos online, about trans people. Here are two that have stuck in my mind.
What do you think of them?

OP posts:
7salmonswimming · 02/10/2018 02:35

Yes I think YABU. You haven’t said why I might want to, or should.

The trans debate (is it a debate?) has almost completely passed me by. I only know that it exists. Why do I need to watch these videos? Do trans people need me to do something (a vote or something)?

BoneyBackJefferson · 02/10/2018 06:59

Losingthewill1

Unsurprisingly, you are very quiet on the vocal, and often violent bigotry from the Trans activists side.

BoneyBackJefferson · 02/10/2018 07:18

What I find interesting about the OP is that is assumes that people are anti trans.

The issue is that there are some very important discussions/arguments to be had yet the trans lobby is the one that is stifling them.

Medically transitioning prepubescent children and teens needs to be fully discussed and have many safeguards in place, with counselling coming first.

The issue of the trans lobby saying that teachers should ignore safeguarding procedures and keep secrets is again a major issue.

There are also major issues with female/women only spaces.

The same with sports and further repercussions with self id and the criminal justice system with the recording of crimes and prisons.

So why is there no debate?

SophoclesTheFox · 02/10/2018 07:24

Uppity is an interesting choice of word with an interesting history, losingthewill. So is "biggot".

Do you often find that calling people names helps them to engage in debate with you?

ADastardlyThing · 02/10/2018 07:32

I don't need to watch them. They won't change the fact that a man cannot become a woman or vice versa.

FermatsTheorem · 02/10/2018 07:50

Video on the left - no issue with a 24 year old deciding they're trans, that's their business, and I'm glad their family was accepting (though a bit of me notes, privately, the conservative, religious family background and wonders what their attitude to having a lesbian daughter would have been). Video on the right - argh, it's all about the pink sparkles and toys for a five year old yet again. What is wrong with saying "anyone can like any toys, some children go through a phase of pretending to be the opposite sex (or dogs, or unicorns, or space aliens, or tractors). Of those a small proportion (the opposite sex ones, not the tractors, obviously) may decide as adults that they're trans. But in the mean time let's not make a big deal of it, let them play and dress how they want, and wait and see."

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