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So three were caught, only one is publicly shamed, wonder if the other people were white.....

36 replies

LoveManyTrustfew · 25/09/2018 18:15

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-45637288

OP posts:
limitedperiodonly · 26/09/2018 19:20

My apologies to you too Pigs. I didn't read your second post. This man has been identified because through no fault of his own he became newsworthy because of being the first person at the Trooping of the Colour to be allowed to wear a turban rather than a busby.

He'd also be newsworthy if he was allowed to wear trainers or had a lip piercing or was in any other way different from the norm.

I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking he looked rather dashing and would hope that if he's an otherwise good soldier he should be allowed to keep his job.

YeTalkShiteHen: Thirty years ago when I started my job it was instant dismissal for a police officer who was caught drink driving - if he couldn't wangle it. It's not any more. And I'm sure there are countless officers who are let off after flashing a warrant card.

I'm not going to say the decision not to automatically dismiss is a good or bad thing. I would say driving while over the limit is a criminal offence (and also a moral one) and when committing criminal offences police officers and members of the Armed Forces should be treated like the rest of us.

But generally the rest us do not lose our jobs when convicted of drink and drug offences unless there are aggravating circumstances

pigsDOfly · 27/09/2018 13:36

Not a problem limited. I realise he's probably been singled out because he was once news worthy for his turban wearing in the guards but I find it a bit odd that he's the only one that has been named when they've all been taking the same illegal drug.

If they were reporting a case of a bunch of men who'd robbed a bank would they only name the men who had been in the news in the past for something note worthy. I doubt it.

maddening · 27/09/2018 13:40

Is it not more of interest because the traditions of the establishment were changed to accommodate religious beliefs and the hypocrisy of asserting a religious belief whilst obviously ignoring them by actively indulging in drugs?

pigsDOfly · 27/09/2018 13:46

Well yes, that's a good point maddening and very true. But I'm not sure the Sun is in any position to take the moral high ground about anything tbh and as far as I can tell they weren't reporting it from that position.

Duskqueen · 27/09/2018 13:47

The thing is there is no news in 2 white guardsmen failing a drugs test, been there done that as they say, but he is the 1st Sikh guardsmen to do it, he is an anomaly and therefore news worthy.

pigsDOfly · 27/09/2018 14:01

Yes, Duskqueen I understand that is the case but brings me back to the question of why I can't find the name of the first ever guardsman who failed a drugs test for cocaine, or anything else come to that. Surely he would be news worthy too.

Maybe I'm wrong and he was named, I can't find it though google though.

Buster72 · 27/09/2018 19:48

Possibly because the first service person caught abusing drugs predates google.

exLtEveDallas · 27/09/2018 20:11

The first ever serviceman dismissed for using drugs would have been from the Black Watch Regiment serving in Ballykinler in 1991/2. They were the first Regt to be CDT'd and IIRC 'caught' 15 or so soldiers.

(Actually that's probably not true, I expect others were caught beforehand, but by chance, admittance or being grassed up. It was CDT coming in that made it harder to get away with it)

bridgetoc · 27/09/2018 20:36

Pathetic post from the snowflake OP.......

Dickybow321 · 27/09/2018 22:14

Pathetic post from the snowflake OP.......

I pity you. You are the pathetic one.

mpsw · 27/09/2018 22:20

Random drug testing, plus targeted testing, has been around in the Forces for decades. And people are sacked when caught - it's routine and never usually makes the news.

I guess this one does because the person in the centre of the allegations has recently been high profile for other reasons, and the press does love a good 'fall from grace' story. So the others from this bust, and all the others from all the other busts, go unreported because no-one has ever heard of the perpetrator and there is nothing to hang a news story on.

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