Girls are weak, emotional, can’t drive and like pink and makeup according to Girlguiding.

[nononsene]

link here

I’m utterly speechless.

At least things have moved on from the days when dd and friends (Brownies) were royally pissed off to be expected to learn to knit, while the same-age Cubs went sausage-sizzling on the beach. (Not in the U.K.)

Dd lasted about as long in the Brownies as I did, i.e. not very long. Knitting was my downfall, too, though I do enjoy it now.

"We had a mix of words that reflected stereotypes"

It's right there in the picture you posted! Did you not read it??

The only way my Rainbows will be knitting is if they teach me

Your DD was in the wrong Pack then! My Brownies cook on open fires but sometimes choose to do things like knitting too. We are very child-led and activities are decided on by them.

I think those are the stereotypes that the girls experience, not what they actually think.
There's a first page to this and girls were asked what goes INSIDE their girl heads and what goes OUTSIDE.
I'll try and find the first part of the screenshot unless OP can?

We don't even need the other page. It's quite clear from the screenshot posted in the OP that they were told to list stereotypes and then a broader range of characteristics to show that the stereotypes are a load of bs.

Here's the tweet. The format looks like something from GG web pages, on how the Rangers are using the new resources.

twitter.com/mopseytoes/status/1043801482930409472

Ah ha a quick Google:

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/running-your-unit/including-all/lgbt-members/talking-about-gender-and-gender-identity/

www.girlguiding.org.uk/what-we-do/our-stories-and-news/stories-and-case-studies/i-started-the-conversation-about-gender-and-gender-identity/

Deliberately goady OP IMO.

There's a first page to this and girls were asked what goes INSIDE their girl heads and what goes OUTSIDE

Well I’ve read the article in full (it’s not long) and I can’t find anything saying that.

When the different groups were asked to feed back, this quickly turned into a debate on feminism, as most discussions usually do in our unit! However, when I used the guidance questions - for example, 'Would she still be a girl if she had short hair or wore trousers?'- to bring the conversation back on topic, the girls had to think quite carefully about their answers.

The fact that a group of teenagers who supposedly regularly discusses feminism had to 'think quite hard' about whether a girl who has short hair and wears trousers is 'still a girl' beautifully and tragically illustrates how far backward this regressive bullshit gender ideology has brought us. It is the polar opposite of feminism.

I’ve noticed a change with Guides too. My daughter is in the Brownies but attended a Guiding Day and they went to great lengths explaining that ‘even’ as a girl she could go into the world and be whatever she wanted to be. My daughter was a bit because she’s never been told that she can’t. It almost seemed that by encouraging equality so much they enforced that girls couldn’t be anything they wanted previously which then set doubts.

Also my son would like to know why girls can join the cubs and scouts but boys can’t join the Brownies or Guides. I’m curious about this too.

Really good point my view. I'm almost 40 and through my childhood there was no talk of "despite being a girl" etc, my family and teachers had high expectations of us all. Being a girl wasn't even a consideration. Even my grandad in his 70s assumed I'd get qualifications and have a career in anything I wanted, limited only by my actual capabilities. Of course I did come across some views like that elsewhere which seemed old fashioned and silly to me. But the first time I encountered this sort of sexism was actually when I was registering with an agency in my early twenties.

Myview2
Myview historically the scouts was a single sex organisation. The guiding movement was started so that girls would also have an organisation.

Over time the number of scouts fell so they decided to go unisex. Guiding did not have the same problem so remained a single sex organisation.

Now the good news for your son is that until recently the guides have been single sex and are allowed to be as an exemption under the equality laws to prevent male sexed children to become members.

They have now become a single gender organisation. While there are legal protections/exemptions for excluding members of the opposite sex there is none for excluding different gender. (Gender is no longer a synonym for sex it is some sort of internal feeling)

Therefore if your son really wants to join the guiding movement he could claim they are discriminating against him as they are no longer applying the single sex exemptions and there are no single gender exemptions allowed.

WHOOOOOOSSHHHHHHHHHH

That was the sound of the point, flying over your head

www.girlguiding.org.uk/what-we-do/our-stories-and-news/stories-and-case-studies/i-started-the-conversation-about-gender-and-gender-identity/

Why are you speechless? They’ve clearly written about the stereotypes about being female aswell. It was an activity the Girlguides did as a group regarding gender identity and how others may think what being a girl is about.

I guess just screenshotting that one bit makes for quite a good article for the DM though does it

🤦🏻‍♀️ Oh dear OP

Namechange

"Inside it, we wrote words that defined being a girl"
That's DEFINED.
Not "pushed upon us from outside."
DEFINED.
The only "definition" of a girl is a female child.

They defined sex as 'biological' and 'something you're born with', annotated sexual orientation with 'spectrum', 'LGBTQ+' and 'not upbringing' and labelled gender as 'whatever you identify with' and 'spectrum'.

They'd be shouted down as transphobic terf cunts for the bit about sex. Poor lambs, trying so hard to comply to this new gender nonsense and still failing.

DrSpouse

Yes thanks I read that bit I’m just wondering what it has to do with There's a first page to this and girls were asked what goes INSIDE their girl heads and what goes OUTSIDE

Sorry, I forgot what was on the "first" and "second" page of the screenshot.
The second page (the image in the OP) asks them to put "what defines a girl" inside a box. They came up with pink, can't drive etc.

Clearer now?

Nope.

It’s quite clear this is the usual people jumping on Guiding threads as a result of the safeguarding concerns that are all over MN. To be honest, I started off very sympathetic to your cause and probably remain really but I have massive issues with how the concerns are expressed.

This is a report written by a 16 year old and you are reading things into it which just aren’t there.

It's not the 16 year old's fault if they are being told "gender" is something individuals have and is a bunch of stereotypes.

I'm unconcerned about learning about gender stereotypes and how society imposes them.

However I'm really shocked that the good practice exercise mentions that the girls had to really think about if a girl was still a girl if she had short hair and trousers.

What the hell are our children learning if this is something that they have to think about?

I grew up in the 70s and 80s. Half us would be wearing trousers and short hair at anyone time. How has this happened?