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28 year old woman assault's 11 year old girl.

59 replies

NurseButtercup · 21/09/2018 05:52

This woman punched this 11 year old child, left bruises and drew blood. Pleaded guilty to assault, but yet avoids a custodial sentence and is handed a six month community order and a £120 fine plus costs of £350.

I'm really puzzled by this sentence - please could a mnetter who understands our justice system guidelines explain the rationale behind this sentence?

I've provided a link to the article that I've just read below:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boxer-known-as-secret-assassin-is-fined-120-for-beating-schoolgirl-11-ks3mf3qdw?shareToken=a5a48f774dc1ea5661c909a7b69749d2

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glintandglide · 21/09/2018 12:00

Tbh it’s not really realistic to imprison everyone who goes around punching others. It’s pretty low level, in terms of crime, as unfortunate as it may be for the victim

LargeGlassOfPepsi · 21/09/2018 17:39

Self-defence? Defending someone else? I'm not saying it's OK and I know nothing about this case, but I can see how it could happen. Also many 11 year olds are adult size. Many would be stronger than e.g. a little old lady.

Defence as in Defence Solicitor.

NotAgainYoda · 21/09/2018 17:44

There's something odd about that picture

WeirdAndPissedOff · 21/09/2018 18:04

After posting earlier, I've been having a look into this case and there are other pictures online - one showing the same blood patterns and the bloodshot eye clearly, and others without the blood showing bruising across the girl's face, and a heavily swollen cheek and nose (taken later I suppose).
Short of makeup skills worthy of Holly wood, it's pretty clear that someone did injure the child badly. Sad
As much as I'd like to believe that no-one could receive a sentence like that for what the mother actually alleges was a sustained assault (several punches, kicks and an attempt to drag the child in the car - which would explain the odd blood distribution I suppose), and there are oddities on both sides, I don't think it's fair to speculate further when it's looking very likely that whatever happened a child has been the victim of what must have been a pretty horrific event. SadBlush

ReanimatedSGB · 21/09/2018 22:21

It sounds unpleasant in the extreme, but I'm inclined to suspect that both the mothers are spiteful cunts, tbh. By the sound of it the kids had an argument and then the parents got involved.

BoneyBackJefferson · 21/09/2018 22:36

A while back a teacher that I had broke a child's nose.

Said child was sat on another child beating the crap out of them. After wading through a crowd of chanting pupils and generally blocking the way in he grabbed the child and pulled them off their victim.
The attacker stumbled and fell face first in to the wall breaking their nose, blood everywhere and two black eyes once everything had had a chance to come up.

So there are ways that the child's nose could have been broken without being punched

Devilishpyjamas · 22/09/2018 06:55

Yes but that case would not have got to court - ime of adults punching children they rarely seem to go to court.

I presume that teacher isn’t particularly prone to shouting abuse out the car at pupils either.

BoneyBackJefferson · 22/09/2018 11:48

Devilishpyjamas

I am just pointing out that there are otherways that this could happen, And although never formally charged he was investigated by both the school and the police.

Devilishpyjamas · 22/09/2018 12:31

Yes they have to investigate. But as I said earlier when my disabled son was punched by two different carers - (reported by other staff, first time as child and hard enough to bruise, second time in the face) still no charges were made. So the fact that this even went to court suggests to me that it was a pretty watertight case.

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