To think women’s rights are actually bad for women- Part 2

[BertrandRussell]

I thought this was an interesting thread-mostly- and it was refreshing to see a discussion like this on a more mainstream board, so I was wondering if anyone was interested in continuing it. The initial contention was (correct me if I'm misrepresenting it) that any sort of special treatment intended to minimise the disadvantage women still experience in some areas of life is counter productive and potentially discriminatory and that women should "toughen up". We should be teaching our girls to stand up to boys and men and not be intimidated by them.

Thats very kind tilly thank you

I feel as if there's been a conversation in another room that I missed.........

I thought your post was great @CantankerousCamel - if only MN had a 'like' button for posts!

Can't you keep your faux feminism to the faux feminist boards without encroaching on aibu with your toxicity?

I’m sorry you’re not clever enough to work out how to not post on and hide threads you don’t like, do you need a hand?

is there a link to the original thread?

other thread

I'd really like to hear some more about faux feminism. I know what I think it means, but I don't think my definition fits the bill here.

CantankerousCamel mine haven’t been acknowledged on FWR before, and I do feel a bit intimidated among women who are so much more educated and articulate than I am. (I’m not saying you’re less educated or articulate, just explaining why I feel a bit nervous sometimes)

For what it’s worth I recognise your username and think you do have something to contribute.

I’m confused by faux feminism too. I also took the accusations of disregarding the rights of disabled people and women in particular very personally as a disabled woman.

Also, I apologise if this sounds ingratiating or “suck up” but I feel there’s a lot I could learn from the women on FWR.

No one commnted in my post either...and im a fucking delight!!

You sure are

I wouldn’t take it personally if you don’t get comments - I’m a horrible meanie for pointing out very tedious goady fuckery apparently I think I’d rather have silence!

My dh actively pushes for women in his male dominated work environment and he does not take shit off people who try and push sexist norms. He goes out of his way to do this. No one (except me) expects him to do this but he sees the unfairness and does his best to address it. And so he should

I have to say, DP does challenge it too. He’s not friends with the kind of men who make disparaging comments about women/girls, but if he comes across it he does pull it up.

He’s ex army, and we work together with a veteran’s charity, so it does happen there. Both of us will challenge it, as will the other people working (mostly men).