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Why is the tax payer paying £2M for Eugenie's wedding?

396 replies

lelepond · 12/09/2018 10:50

Why does this irrelevant individual (who is not a working royal therefore carries out no royal functions) feel it necessary to have such an extravagant wedding which necessitates a security bill of £2 million? I find it totally unacceptable given that so many of our public services are struggling. AIBU to ask why more people aren't outraged? Who even is she? What is her purpose?

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SamanthaBrique · 16/09/2018 08:25

I have to say that if Eugenie is that embarrassed then she should stand up to her father and tell him no.

LaurieMarlow · 16/09/2018 08:43

PMSL at Prince Philip never forgiving Fergie for 'embarrassing' the royal family.

Is it because that's his job?

Twotailed · 16/09/2018 08:47

Direct your anger at the lunatic British public who can’t be trusted to leave them alone to get married in peace. That’s the real reason they need security measures.

LaurieMarlow · 16/09/2018 08:57

She's a minor royal. Busting out a carriage parade is hardly the action of someone who just wants to 'get married in peace'.

I've always kinda liked her but it's clear from that article that she doesn't have an original thought in her head. Apparently Ellie Goulding is singing at the reception, just like she did at Kate n Wills wedding.

SheStoopsToConker · 16/09/2018 09:02

No @Twotailed, the reason they need the security measures is because of the bloody carriage ride! I think the great British public couldn't give a monkeys about this wedding, but the Yorks are living up to their reputations nicely.

sweethope · 16/09/2018 09:53

People forget that while it may cost us 2m in security, the amount of income any royal event generates for the country is multiplied tenfold through tourism

Absolute nonsense. Stop falling for the palace PR bullshit. There’s not a single shred of evidence that the royals generate money through tourism. The tourist board itself tells us that the royal palaces are way down the list of places that people come to see. When are people going to stop being so gullible and be taken in so easily. If the royal family were no more people would still flock to visit us, in fact if all those palaces were empty we’d probably get even more. The Palace of Versailles in France gets millions more visitors than Buck House, there’s proof right there that not having a RF harms the tourism trade.

The royal family are a financial burden to a country that can’t —refuses— even feed its poor and a reminder of the huge gulf between the haves and the have nots. Yet we throw millions at them every year, pay for the upkeep of their huge (usually) empty palaces, cost us a fortune in security (21 of them no less) and like brainwashed sheep we quite happily accept them as our betters and see nothing wrong with the absolute absurdity and obscenity of having a monarch reign over us purely and without merit through the accident of birth.

MissEliza · 16/09/2018 10:25

The higher profile Royals may generate interest in visiting the U.K. but not Eugenie or her sister.

EarlyModernParent · 16/09/2018 10:26

It does seem rather tone deaf, but I can't bring myself to criticise Eugenia. With parents as awful as hers, sound judgment was never going to be her forte.

EarlyModernParent · 16/09/2018 10:27

Eugenie! My spell check is being so bossy today!

moreThanFantastic · 16/09/2018 10:28

She's at risk because of circumstances of her birth. That's why a pretty insignificant sum is perfectly acceptable.

LaurieMarlow · 16/09/2018 10:45

A) it's not an insignificant sum and B) her circumstances of birth don't necessitate a big old carriage ride round Windsor. If she kept it to the castle the security bill could be reduced considerably.

moreThanFantastic · 16/09/2018 10:50

a) it's a tiny amount. b) why shouldn't she have the wedding she wants if she's paying for the wedding?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/09/2018 11:05

why shouldn't she have the wedding she wants if she's paying for the wedding?

No reason at all; what she does with purely private money is entirely her business and it doesn't become ours until she starts leaning on the public purse

Which is why the bill should have been minimised by keeping the whole thing with the castle precincts

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/09/2018 11:06
  • within the precincts
QueenOfTheAndals · 16/09/2018 11:12

If it's such a tiny amount then surely they can pay for it themselves?

LaurieMarlow · 16/09/2018 11:17

She isn't paying for it herself. The bulk of the wedding is paid for via public money in the form of the sovereign grant. The security costs are being paid direct by the tax payer.

sweethope · 16/09/2018 11:25

The royal family so out of tune with the nation. People getting sanctions, food banks, zero contract hours, homelessness, unaffordable housing........but there they are out with their begging bowls once again. Why are this one family immune to the bloody hardships so many face. The queen should pay, 2 million is a bit of loose change out of her £365 million fortune.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/09/2018 11:29

Hang on, Laurie; I'm trying to find it now, but I thought it had been said that the Yorks were meeting the actual wedding costs privately?

Though admittedly what's private money and what's public funding can often be down to clever accounting ...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/09/2018 11:33

Found it (Source: www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a21931305/princess-eugenie-wedding-cost-who-pays/)

In a statement regarding the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's nuptials, Kensington Palace said: "As was the case with the wedding of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, The Royal Family will pay for the core aspects of the wedding, such as the church service, the associated music, flowers, decorations, and the reception afterwards."

And I guess it raises the question of which "pot" of money they're using Hmm

Twotailed · 16/09/2018 11:36

SheStoopsToConker you’ll eat your words when you see just how many do turn up to watch that parade. I can’t imagine why myself, but there will be literally thousands of people who want to see it. That’s why it costs the public money.

LaurieMarlow · 16/09/2018 11:52

And I guess it raises the question of which "pot" of money they're using

Well exactly. And I notice they've kept it vague. Hmm

So it could be ...

Sovereign grant money: Public money, not their own private money, but being given to them regardless so I guess they could be spinning it as 'theirs'.

Duchy of Lancaster money: ownership of this is particularly grey. It's not 'Windsor family' money, but the sovereign seems to have more autonomy over it than the sovereign grant.

Windsor family private fortune: unquestionably 'private money' but I'd be surprised if funds are coming from this.

HisBetterHalf · 16/09/2018 12:09

funny how austerity means cuts to the support of vulnerables but there's always money to find for crap events like this. They should pay for it themselves and if they cannot afford it then they should do what we mere mortals do and have to do without

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/09/2018 12:13

I notice they've kept it vague

Indeed

As so often, they rely on not too many questions being asked - and if the questions arrive there's a team of very experienced PR/accountancy staff with a lot of experience in deflecting them

Never doubt for an instant that the Windsors' determination to hang on to their vast privileges is just as great as in the days when monarchs would actually fight to defend them Hmm

RayneDash · 16/09/2018 12:14

I have always been a big fan of royalty and the history of the country. But I think that it's an outdated tradition. In the past, we needed royalty to forge allies and marriage was a strong tool to gain allies.

Now there are more entities out there. Presidents, prime ministers etc. Sadly, royalty are only really good for tourism (which is a BIG bonus to us in terms of revenue and tourism.) But I do believe that to use taxpayers money they should be a working royal. Otherwise it's just taking from an economy you are not helping with. And don't people on benefits get crucified for this every single day?

sweethope · 16/09/2018 12:50

royalty are only really good for tourism (which is a BIG bonus to us in terms of revenue and tourism
No they aren’t, stop falling for their bullshit.