To ask what you think about grown women who go to Disneyland without dc with Disney ears and wearing Disney dresses?

[Witchofzog]

Before anyone flames me this is meant to be light hearted. Obviously a holiday is about doing what you want to do and I strongly believe each to their own. I also don't get holidays where you fling yourself out of trees or go to back to basic retreats where you pay a fortune to effectively starve yourself.

But I have 2 friends on Facebook - one an ex colleague and the other a distant family member who have been to Disneyland Florida with their partners (who look a bit bored in the photos) over the last 2 months. Both have dressed in cutesie Disney dresses, Disney shoes, bags and ears despite being in their 30's and their photos are mainly all with various characters. I just don't get it. I imagine with children or for a few days it would be totally magical but I think 2 weeks of meeting characters and eating Disney shaped food would get a bit boring after a while. But I am prepared to be educated. These women look like they are literally having the time of their lives so there must be something I am missing.

Would you go on your own without dc's for 2 weeks?

Honestly? It’s the pitying of an adult doing something that they enjoy that I find shitty.

Don’t pity them, that’s infantilising and dehumanising.

I fucking hate Disney, bastard company has had fortunes out of me over the years, but I don’t pity anyone who enjoys it, nor do I grudge them something which brings them joy.

Pitying people is just a really crappy thing to do.

It is not for me, but good for them for having fun. My ex husband and his wife used to go to Butlins together as a couple. They took the children a lot too but they loved their Butlins trips together. I loved taking the kids there but it is one of the last places I would want to go with DH.

My mum went to Disneyland with work and she didn't expect to enjoy it half as much as she did.

Backs away....

Yay!

It is perfectly ok for people to think an adult Disney obsession is pathetic - that’s their opinion.

And there you have it folks - I was waiting for it to come out, and I’m impressed is as blatant as this - the ‘it’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it’ arguement.

Thinking something is pathetic is not an opinion, it’s a judgement. It comes from a place of thinking you are better than someone else - does anybody ever say, “she does do much charity work, reads to old people in her spare time and hand knits jumpers for dogs, but she likes going on beach holidays - how pathetic”? No, because you know that’s ridiculous and would be an unfair statement.

So, you think it’s ‘pathetic’ to like Disney because it implies a morally superior ground (you do, it’s the very essence of the word) . Well guess what - you don’t have it. The very fact you think it’s okay to call something pathetic because, “it’s just my opinion and I’m allowed one”, means you will never get to occupy that space either - it’s nasty, and it’s spiteful, and it’s unecceaary.

Rockhopper81 MN needs a standing ovation emoji! Well said!

I’d love to have the courage to do this - but for a day, not 2 weeks. Sadly I don’t.

Diisney is amazing. I usually find those who ‘feel sorry’ for those that regularly go are usually just jealous as they can’t afford to do the same
Mumsnet bingo.
Someone has a different opinion to you and thinks negatively if something you like = obviously jealous

I dislike rides.
I dislike queuing for ages.
I dislike crowds of people.
If adults like Disney then cool. Live and let live.
I find the childish infantalised squealing about meeting Disney princesses to be bizarre (because they are actors in costumes and I genuinely don't get why grown adults would be making a ginormous fuss about meeting a fiction so character played by any number of actors who are on duty that day).

Explain to me why that proves I am jealous of people going on holiday to somewhere I wouldn't enjoy?

MaisyPops it doesn’t. Your vehemence against them is bizarre though.

Moral superiority? Intellectual superiority maybe but morality has nothing to do with this.

@SaucyJack I would be at Game of thrones land before they had time to open the gates

I'm so sorry. My DS got hold of my IPad and thought it was funny.

I would think it very odd. As I would if, say, a couple of grown women went to see the Gruffalo stage show, or booked a slot for Santa’s grotto. But I wouldn’t think it was any of my business, although I’d assume that we wouldn’t have much in common.

Oh pish posh.

I love Disney and ofter do fancy dress as a Disney princess, it's not like they've poped to tesco like it.

Intellectual superiority

Seriously?! You are seriously suggesting you have intellectual superiority over people because of the holidays they pick?

I think you’ve proved yourself wrong right there

Moral superiority? Intellectual superiority maybe but morality has nothing to do with this.

You do not what morality is, right? The distinction between good/bad, or right/wrong? So actually, it’s the epitome of a moral judgement.

Also, intelligence has no bearing on it - high IQ doesn’t come with a list of things you’re not allowed to like anymore.

Please don’t argue semantics when you’re not sure of their use in the first place.

Intellectual superiority?! Are you joking, or deliberately being antagonistic?

What a vile thing to say.

What we enjoy says nothing about our intellectual level. That isn't opinion, it's fact.

What a boring life you must lead if you seek to only enjoy things that you believe make you intellectually superior.

Tuxon ha ha you believe yourself intellectually superior to people who like Disney? That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in quite a long time. Some of the cleverest people I know ALSO like Disney. Think GPs and high achieving lawyers and accountants! It’s a bit of escapism from the gritty/ grim realities of every day life!

Your vehemence against them is bizarre though.
I don't think it's bizarre to find grown adults hysterically squealing about meeting fictional princesses (who are just random people in costume) odd.

I'd feel the same if someone spent 6 months counting down (usually in sleeps as in 'eep!! 230 sleeps until princess time') to 'meeting Dumbledore', 'meeting their x men heroes' or any other fictional being.

I quite fancy visiting the Harry potter studios and love Harry Potter. I'm sure some people might think that's silly. Each to their own. If I got to Harry potter studios and saw grown adults getting all hyperactive about meeting Snape then I would find it quite perplexing and odd for an adult.
Adult liking Harry Potter (like Disney), each to their own.
Adults visiting themed places, each to their own.
Adults getting hysterically childlike about meeting fictional characters and dressing up like the characters and getting all squealy - a bit bizarre. Harmless and if it makes them happy then great, but it is weird behaviour for an adult.

Posted too soon ! How lacking in imagination are you not realising it can appeal to all kinds of people?

but it is weird behaviour for an adult.

You surely meant to add "in my opinion" to that? Funny thing about this is that SO many people enjoy Disney, millions and millions but you don't...maybe you're the "weird" one?

I didn’t suggest that - rockhopper brought superiority into it and I suspect meant to say those who didn’t understand a Disney obsession felt they were intellectually superior rather than morally superior. But that’s rock’s supposition, not my position

Tara bond of the Disney aficionados I know are in professional roles. As for the superiority comments, see above.

Funny thing about this is that SO many people enjoy Disney, millions and millions but you don't...maybe you're the "weird" one?
Except I haven't said people are weird for liking and enjoying Disney.
I actually don't mind some Disney films..
In fact, I've also said repeatedly that different people enjoy different things and each to their own. I've also explicitly said that whilst it's my idea of hell, friends love it and go back regularly.

What I DO think is weird behaviour for an adult is the hysterically child like squealing and gushing about how it's 14 sleeps until you get to meet Elsa. They aren't meeting Elsa. They are seeing a random adult in an Elsa costume pretending to be a fictional character.

(E.g. someone I know who is in this mode also obsesses about having lots of themed memorabilia, had Disney princess themed parties where they had princess dresses, makes a massive deal about glitter and sparkles and unicorns, shares updates in sleeps until they go etc it's like a bizarre. They're a lovely woman but their entire mannerisms become quite infantalised and baby-ish when certain topics come up)

The difference between:
A) People enjoy whatever holiday they like. Each to their own. Personally DisneyWorld is far from my cup of tea and takes lots of what I dislike and puts it in one place.
And
B) I find the gushing, squealy, over excited childish carry on where adults insist on going on like meeting some random adult in a costume is a monumental event etc all dressed up, counting down in sleeps who to be weird for an adult

is really quite obvious.

@Tuxon

No, I meant to say morally superior ground - which is what I said - commonly known as the moral high ground. I knew exactly what I was saying.

And you didn’t suggest intellectual superiority, you stated it. And considered it wasn’t a moral issue, but an intellectual one. Which is isn’t, because it is a moral high ground you want to occupy - judgement comes from a place of believing you are above someone else generally. Using words and phrases like ‘pathetic’ and ‘weird’ and ‘creepy’ confirms this - it’s a judgement based on supposedly being ‘better’ than someone else, that they are therefore inferior.

So I didn’t ‘bring anything into it’, I used a phrase from common parlance to sum up the whole superiority theme going on here. And I stand by it.