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To ask if you or your dc is dairy free?

30 replies

HowCanThisBeRight · 07/09/2018 20:25

So we think dd may be dairy intolerant.
To put as simply and not long winded as poss. Always had loose poo on formula.. Tried nutramegen but she refused point blank to drink it. Gp said we'll being as dhev was gaining weigh nicely as wasn't uncomfortable then just stick to what we had.

Weaning came about.. All fresh veg etc. And baby porridge for breakfast.

Last week started varying more.. And eat what we do.. And didnt give much thought.
Mon and Tues Inc through out the days. Had included cauliflower cheese.. Fromage frsise. Cheese with pasta. And a mini rice pudding.. = 10 loose poo in two days.

So from yesterday.. Only dairy she had was the formula and porridge.. 1 loose poo last night.. Today has been back to her normal ones sorry tmi..

So have written a detailed diary but wondering whether to try a bit of extra dairy tomorrow or wait till Monday?

If she reacts again, then I'll return to gp with the diary of food.

If it turns out she is what's foods are best?. Where's good places to buy from?

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Greenwomanofmay · 07/09/2018 20:35

My DS has CMPA and I'm bf him so it's no dairy for both of us. Things I like are vitalite margarine, oatley barista, violife ready grated cheese, coconut collaborative chocolate pots, Tesco freefrom chocolate buttons and Betty Crocker brownie mix.

Ohyesiam · 07/09/2018 20:40

We have goats butter and cheddar, soya yoghurts, and rice milk for drinks( older child).
Noticed in Sainsbury they have lots of lactose free stuff now, which I need to have a better look at as I’ve never found a good replacement for mozzarella, and we all love pizza.

HowCanThisBeRight · 07/09/2018 21:07

Thank you. Do you find its very restrictive?

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HidingFromMyKids · 07/09/2018 21:31

There are lots more alternatives than there used to be and lots of things accidentally dairy free so you don't always have to pay the premium.

Firstly it's a big jump to make you have to be quite sure, they say it's six weeks to clear dairy from the system although I noticed a massive change after two weeks.

I would advise to cut all dairy out and see if symptoms go. Do a trial with dairy and record the symptoms.

Do you have any other symptoms or just the bad nappies, could it be teething?

Mine had blood and mucus diarrhoea nappies, silent reflux, rash, eczema and pains.
Unlikely to be lactose intolerance as that is rare in babies so I wouldn't advise you to muddy the waters with lactofree just yet. Cmpa and lactose are very different.

Unfortunately there isn't really a magic answer it's likely the gp will just say to continue managing a dairy free diet if a reaction is confirmed.

How old is dc x

chocolateworshipper · 07/09/2018 21:32

Alpro do dairy-free milk and yoghurts. DD was dairy intolerant for a while (no longer) - but she could have cheese made with goats milk. I think it's much easier to get dairy-free foods from supermarkets now than it was back then, so hopefully shouldn't be too bad for you. You'll probably just need to plan in advance if you're going out for the day as it will be trickier to get dairy free lunch-time snacks.

Thatsajokeright · 07/09/2018 21:34

We are dairy free. I think the longer you do it the easier it gets! There's lots of great alternatives though. We recently found custard and mayo that taste exactly like their dairy counterparts.

Alpro yoghurts are fab and we weaned on Alpro growing up milk.

Cooking from scratch is easier than buying ready made. And always check the ingredients - Milk is in SO much stuff. Hmm

HowCanThisBeRight · 07/09/2018 21:36

Sorry should of said theyre very slimey poos. Tmi like mucus.?
She does have a speckle rash on her torso which often appears..
Have kept a diary since Monday. I will keep it going a few weeks if u can and watching so I don't waste gp time.

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Mummadeeze · 07/09/2018 21:40

thatsajokeright could you let me know where to buy the custard and mayo alternatives? Would love to add these into my diet. OP I live on dark chocolate almond milk (just from the supermarket), it is delicious. I also add a lot of hummus into my diet.

crumbsinthecutlerydrawer · 07/09/2018 21:50

Dd is dairy free, as pp says even in the last 4 years the range of things available are so much better. We use most of the oatly range, so the milk, custard, cream. Violife cheese, she knows no different so other people may say it’s horrible but she loves it and I don’t think it’s as horrible as the soya alternatives. Vitalite margarine, most one brand blocks of baking marg are dairy free if you’re baking anything. There’s a cheese sauce mix I think it’s called free and easy that Holland and Barret sell that I make up with oatly that dd loves with pasta.

Heinz seriously good mayo is dairy free as are a lot of the jarred ones so don’t go spending a fortune on something just with a diet free label.

Shopping will take ages at first whilst you read all the labels and I still check some things as recipes do change but it’s really not that tough once you’re used to it. Keep an eye on the calcium though especially if you’re using coconut based things as they don’t always have calcium in them, same as oatly organic.

crumbsinthecutlerydrawer · 07/09/2018 21:51

Sorry for the typos. I meant own brand marg and dairy free label.

HappyFridays · 07/09/2018 21:55

It sounds very much like cows milk protien allergy to me. My daughter had episodes of diorrea with mucus from 6 months old. We weaned her onto baby porridge made up using aptimil and that was when her problems started. At first the DR put it down to tummy bug & advised to stop the weaning, diorrea would improve. As soon as we started weaning again it would come straight back..2 weeks of diorrea at a time.. took me a while to make the link & my child got very poorly in the meantime, low iorn count from constant diorrea episodes..

HappyFridays · 07/09/2018 21:57

We kept a diary, but out all dairy, me too because I was breastfeeding. It took over 2 weeks for all dairy to leave my system but we definite improvements in the first few days of me going dairy free

doleritedinosaur · 07/09/2018 21:58

My two sons are dairy & soya free, we test them every 6 months as per the milk ladder.
The GP should refer you to a dietician who can help with questions & milk ladder if there is a dairy issue which from the poo’s & rash it sounds like.
Is there also ezcema?

Soya has similar proteins so just watch for a similar reaction.

We use almond milk & Oatly.
Oatly do milk, chocolate milk, custard, cream & creme fraiche all very easy to cook with.

Flora freedom, pure & vitalite are all good spreads & I found a vegetable fat block in Morrison’s today for baking with.

Just check products for whey & you’ll get used to checking ingredients.
Violife grated cheddar is the best to cook with & the only one that isn’t foul. I have to give up dairy for 7 months while breastfeeding so I tried a lot of cheeses.

It’s easier than you think, they’re not restricted at all even at 3 & 18 Months.

HappyFridays · 07/09/2018 22:00

She was a new child in those following weeks, diorrea stopped, her weight improved. She is now 18 months & can tolerate dairy in fromage frais and can take butter. Shes slowly outgrowing the allergy.

honeysucklejasmine · 07/09/2018 22:01

Yes, we are. Be careful, because lactose free products are not appropriate for suspected CMPA. It's the protein they are allergic to, not the sugar.

DS is also allergic to egg and soya but it's not too restrictive. As pp says, cook from scratch, and check labels - a lot of normal products are perfectly fine. Only buy free from products if you have to, they are super expensive.

lastqueenofscotland · 07/09/2018 22:03

I’m vegan
Most vegan cheese is fucking hanging. Don’t bother with it. Violife is ok-ish grated and melted.
Oat and soy milk are the two best milk substitutes
Pure is good fake butter

Ohyesiam · 07/09/2018 22:07

Alpro do soya custard op, everywhere from health food shops to our coop.
Mayo is naturally dairy free, it’s eggs and oil. But you can get egg free ones in health food shops

Hoopaloop · 07/09/2018 23:30

Our DS is dairy free. He had the blood, mucous and body rash from the start. He's almost 3 now and can tolerate things he couldn't a while ago, stuff with cooked/processed milk in.

Thatsajokeright · 08/09/2018 12:43

@Mummadeeze the custard is Alpro and the mayo is Veganaise. I got both in Sainsbury's in the 'free from' aisle. 🙂 I was really missing mayo so I'm so happy now!

Mummadeeze · 08/09/2018 13:05

Thanks - so helpful thatsajokeright Am allergic to eggs as well as dairy so that veganaise sounds like it will work. V excited to try them.

User878929333 · 08/09/2018 13:10

Long experience of CMPA. You’ll need at least a month of a diary of being dairy free to see a pattern.

DO NOT GIVE SOYA ALTERNATIVES. Many kids with CMPA are also reactive to soya. Soya products in general should not be given to children under 5 anyway. I’m always irritated to see this advice given to people witb potentially milk allergic/intolerant babie.

Artesia · 08/09/2018 13:11

Thatsajokeright you don’t need to buy specialist mayo- Hellmans normal mayo is dairy free(not the light one- it has cream powder in it) as are many of the main brands

Bubblysqueak · 08/09/2018 13:14

I've got a dairy allergy and find it quite easy to manage (although I do occasionally slip up with not checking things like stock cubes).

I really like the range of free from foods at Tesco, but found that supermarket own brands often don't add milk products to things that branded items do e.g. some bread and pasta sauces, so I always check the normal food first.

I got caught out last week by beef stock pots which I hadn't even thought about and also a different type of bread that was substituted in my shopping.

Asda are also reducing they cost of their free from range and also widening it.

overmydeadbody · 08/09/2018 13:21

Newboot me too, long experience with cmpa and soya is an absolute no go for my ds, unless in very small quantities ( in dark chocolate for example, he can tolerate a few squares of that).

His favourite is hazelnut milk. He won't eat fake cheese, I think because we've drummed it into him so much that he can't eat cheese that he won't even risk it with fake stuff.

We attempt the milk ladder every six months, so far no luck.

Mostly we eat dairy free meals so we're all eating the same thing. It's pretty easy actually.

Thatsajokeright · 08/09/2018 13:29

@Artesia quite right, dairy free but not egg free! Smile