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to hate how some words have been changed from verbs to nouns

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QueenoftheNights · 07/09/2018 08:00

I'm thinking of things like 'hacks'.
To hack used to only mean (in slang) to be able to do something. 'Can you hack it?'
Now we have 'life hacks' and all kinds of 'hacks'.

'To learn' has been corrupted into 'learnings'.

I also hate the expression 'go to' when it means something you choose above anything else. Like the 'Packed lunches - your go-tos' now trending here.

Ok hands up, I'm a writer so language matters to me, but more and more I'm made to think 'What the hell is that supposed to mean?'

OP posts:
FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 07/09/2018 15:57

" I'm a writer so language matters to me "

be grateful that you are able to use such a wonderfully flexible and constantly evolving language like English then..:)

AlmaGeddon · 07/09/2018 16:11

I think a lot of these are Americanism and get adopted because of their use in tv series etc. I suppose that is language evolving but it is evolving incredibly quickly compared to pre tv and internet.
My pet hates are 'up next' eg the afternoon play is up next. Why not just 'on next' aaaaah.
And 'go potty' ie go to the toilet , it conjured freaky images when I first heard it in th states but have since heard it here, creepy!

SenecaFalls · 07/09/2018 16:13

'I will revert to you next week' or similar at the end of his emails (which is one of my other pet peeves, although it does seem to be accepted use now in US English).

This is not common usage in the US.

As for nouning and verbing being Americanisms, Shakespeare did both.

SenecaFalls · 07/09/2018 16:17

I tend to be fairly liberal regarding language changes, but I have to admit that my current pet hate is "adulting," not so much from the language perspective, but just the notion that behaving like a grown-up is a lifestyle choice.

OzymandiasFanClub · 07/09/2018 16:21

Another pet hate of mine ( tho not verb/ noun) is "gotten".
Every time I've heard it, it's gotten on my nerves.

SenecaFalls · 07/09/2018 16:24

How do you feel about forgotten?

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 07/09/2018 16:29

oh for gods sake, not another whinge about 'gotten', which has been in the English language for at least as long as 'begotten' and 'forgotten'.

dudsville · 07/09/2018 16:39

If you love me, and I change with age, do you limit your love to me only when I was say, a new born? If you love language, that's a broad term, implying the life span of language ams all its changes. Perhaps you mean you love a certain era? (Hands up, writer here too).

LollyPopsApple · 07/09/2018 16:39

Unless you are one of the Four Tops no need to reach out to anyone, contact is fine.

Really made me smile!

One of my favourites is people considering themselves to be spelling and grammar pedants (and wanting others to know), but accidentally calling themselves a type of necklace instead.

phlebasconsidered · 07/09/2018 16:43

But hack means lots of things! You can hack away at chopping a tree, you can hack out on a horse, you can go for a hack or you can be a hack or a hacker. That's the joy of language.

My favourite language lessons as a teacher are when we unpick words. Nouns can be verbs all the time, you can change nouns into adjectives or verbs or adverbs by dint of a simple prefix or suffix, or simply by how you use them. I set a homework once to find examples and I've never had such a great response. Language should be a living thing. It always has been.

BlueTyger · 07/09/2018 17:11

yeah, the "reach out" thing.

its actually quite sweet in a way if seen in a neutral way.

but in another way its patronising - "I'm gonna save your ass" you poor in-need person

SenecaFalls · 07/09/2018 17:21

But "reach out" and "contact" don't really mean the same thing; they are not perfect synonyms. It's subtle differences in meaning that make language interesting as well as useful.

BustopherJones · 07/09/2018 18:42

I think it’s people using them as exact synonyms that people find jarring, Seneca. I’ve worked with a man who used ‘reach out’ when he meant ‘email’.

A lot of it is trying to sound dynamic and like you’re DOING SOMETHING. So we get phrases like ‘let’s bluesky this’ when we mean ‘have a think about it’.

PuppyMonkey · 07/09/2018 18:56

I also used to work as a hack at the local newspaper.

Lilyhatesjaz · 07/09/2018 18:58

I loved the way someone on here used the word patio as a verb as in to patio her husband. I've been enjoying using the word like that ever since.

AlmaGeddon · 08/09/2018 07:51

As for nouning and verbing being Americanisms, Shakespeare did both

But I don't see that as a reason for justifying using them now. They are common usage in the USA but I don't see that they should be brought back to the UK. For some reason we have moved on from their usage.
Perhaps areas of the USA were isolated and language continued in use long after the UK, with many more influences, changed.

SoupDragon · 08/09/2018 10:26

For some reason we have moved on from their usage.

You mean you are embracing the way language has evolved...?

Ellisandra · 08/09/2018 10:46

Some new words and phrases make me smile (I like medalling at events, I love to patio a husband!).
Others I don’t like - though I couldn’t logically say why!

But I just cringed at OP’s “because I’m a writer” comment. Just makes you sound totes up your own arse Hmm

SenecaFalls · 08/09/2018 14:40

But I don't see that as a reason for justifying using them now. They are common usage in the USA but I don't see that they should be brought back to the UK. For some reason we have moved on from their usage.

By my reference to Shakespeare, I was just trying to suggest that nouning and verbing have long been a feature of English, and not just American English. A very good example is "phone." The original word is telephone, a noun, shortened to phone. It quickly became a verb, and is now so much a part of the language that people (including some on this thread) don't even recognize it as a "verbing." Another more recent example is "text" a noun that is now a verb as well.

Happygummibear · 08/09/2018 14:49

That song... let's Marvin Gaye and get it on.... wtaf?

SenecaFalls · 08/09/2018 15:49

The word "rain" was once only a noun; it's an old example of verbing in English.

And those of you who hate it: do you ever email anyone or google something? If you hate verbing, you need to find alternate expressions.

OzymandiasFanClub · 08/09/2018 16:02

I know how and why language changes (degree in linguistics ... but no doubt that'll be held against me). Just giving examples which I personally find irritating.

LongSummerDays · 08/09/2018 16:19

I remember my granny giving me a very long hard stare when I announced around the age of 10 "Going bog"

(I'm just off to the little girls' room) Grin

Language evolves.

tillytrotter1 · 08/09/2018 22:05

What about when nouns are used as verbs??? It grates when I hear sports commentators talking about 'medalling', e.g. she medalled at the Commonwealth Games.

I totally agree but I bet you use that other noun-now-verb, parenting!
Why do people say 'fill out' a form rather than 'fill in', you're putting information into the document.

chocolateworshipper · 09/09/2018 09:52

Pet peeves:

"was you"
"hisself" (instead of himself)
"diarise"

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