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Am i Alienating exdp?

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Dollydimplespimple · 06/09/2018 12:15

As the title says really, am I alienating exdp?
We split 5 years ago and have two ds7, he cheated and eventually left to be with the ow which destroyed me.

He was never a hands on dad and always saw parenting as the woman's job, when he left je pretty much disowned the dcs until he was settled into his relationship then decided that he wanted to be a father and have the dcs around to cement their co-habiting.

I refused to let this happen, but never stopped access as the dcs were still very young at the time and as he had only just started to look after them. In all that time there were many arguments about me being jealous, which i was I'd had my family taken away after i stood by him when at very difficult time, it was like a slap in the face for him to cheat, leave and try to take our dcs with him.

Anyway going through the years things started to get better, he spent more time with the dcs and we began to get along with each other, so much so we were able to spend time together with our dcs for special occasions and often taking them on days out, that was until last year when he cheated on the ow and began a new relationship where he done exactly the same thing as before, not seeing the dcs regularly not paying maintance, being vile to me making threats of violence and just being an arse.

So again he's now settled into this relationship and has moved in with this woman after only 6, again I am not stopping access he can see the dcs but I would like a solid arrangement put into place which he is refusing to do.

The last time he saw them was in July, he was meant to take them two weeks ago and when I asked what time he would be collecting them I got a barrage of abuse and excuses, one being he didnt have a bed which is a lie as he told me he had bought them a bed 3 months ago.
In the end i told him not to bother and to take me to court for access.

There has also been so many lies over the years that simply do not trust him, the last time he had the dcs overnight was when they was 4 and he left them with his ex for two days and went out drinking with his friends, leaving me panicking and wondering where my children were, I couldnt go and pick them up as he didnt want me knowing where he lived why I do not know. I have never caused any trouble at his home or turned up unannounced to his previous homes, unlike him who used to turn up to mine at 1am after a night out.
He is also now refusing to tell me where he lives now and is also lying about the fact he lives with his gf which is not a problem.

We had previously spoken about When we both had new partners that we would inform each other of any major changes, which affects our dcs, so when my dp moved in with me we both spoke to him first just out of respect and so he didnt find out via the dcs
So I'm really not sure why he's lying about it.

He's now going around telling anyone that will listen that I'm alienating him from the dcs life stopping contact and not making them call him. I have asked them if they want to call and they don't want to speak to him, I dont badmouth him so I think they have just had enough of him not being around and breaking his promises.

I do feel bad for them because they do love him and I can see that they're hurting, but while he's out slandering me he's failing to own up to what he's done wrong so the problems will never go away, I mean how can you not see your children for 6 months and then expect to just pick up where you left off?

I have also got to a point where I've had enough of running behind him constantly asking if he will be taking them out or spending time with them, calling to inform him of sports day or parents evenings none of which he attends even though he says he will.

So am I doing what he says I'm doing?
I am prepared to be told I'm wrong by telling him to go to court, if I am wrong how do i fix this? It's completely messing with my head and I've had to go back to the doctors for my depression, because he's making me feel as though I'm crazy.

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Thebluedog · 06/09/2018 12:21

I think going to court and arranging access this way is the o my sensible way to do it. That way he can choose to turn up or not on his times for access.

Id certainly not be handing over my dc for an overnight stay, if I didn’t have an address where they were staying!

As for him telling everyone that you are alienating your dc from him, simply ignore. The people who are important in your life will know the truth.

I’d also cut all communication with him except via email, and only engage in conversation if it’s about the dc.

Thebluedog · 06/09/2018 12:21
  • is the only sensible way
TheMobileSiteMadeMeSignup · 06/09/2018 12:23

I think you are totally right in telling him to take you to court. I would continue to text only details of school things but do not expect him to be there. Do not engage with any abuse and do not answer if he calls, text back telling him to text you. Keep all of his texts or voice mails.

Clearly he now has a pattern of abandoning his parental responsibilities so be aware that it will likely happen again when this current woman becomes ex number 3.

Phillipa12 · 06/09/2018 12:30

He seems to be doing a good job of alienating himself! How old are the dcs? Personally i would email your ex and say that going forward the boys need stability in their lives and also a relationship with their father. So in terms of contact you shall make the boys available for contact every other weekend from either fri pm to sun pm or sat am to sun pm, and put times, you are also more than happy to do one of the journeys. If he dosent turn up then have a nice weekend with your dc, they will soon figure out that he is a disapointmen. You also need to tell him that you will be contacting the cms so that the correct maintenance is paid in accordance with how many nights he has the dc. If he wishes to know the school stuff he can find that out himself, he only needs to phone the school and issue his email address for him to get notified of sports days etc. Draw a line under the running around after him and just be there to support your dc as and when he fucks up!

Dollydimplespimple · 06/09/2018 12:43

This is the problem, all of what you've said is what im doing now.
I only talk to him via text because he lies so much so I like to have evidence of what's been said, I asked him to provide me with his email address so that their school could inform him about parents evening and other events.
He told me I was being ridiculous and it wasn't necessary, I'm also now going out instead of sitting investing for him to turn up on his proposed days, which he doesn't like. He will often turn up late into the afternoon and when I tell him I've gone out I get abused.

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Thebluedog · 06/09/2018 14:56

Keep doing all that you are doing Flowers if xoursehell kick off about it as he’s no longer got the ability of controlling you or your dc.

Dollydimplespimple · 06/09/2018 19:12

Thank you bluedog

Do I have any legal rights to know where he lives though?
I would never not tell him where we lived, infact he was the first person I had come to my new house so he could see where the dcs would be living.

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CityFarmer · 06/09/2018 19:26

You're treating him fairer than he deserves.

Stop chasing after him.
He has no problem sorting him self out with what he wants to do. If he wants school info, let him give his email address to school office. If he wants to take kids out, let him adk when theyre free, not you suggesting it. If he wants to talk to the kids let him call, not you asking amd encouraging.
You're doing all the 'wife-work'!
The benefit if the ex id leaving all that crap behind with them. Be free! Enjoy it! Move on!

Youve done enough to be able to say to the kids you tried to encourage a fatherly relationship. But it's enough now. It's his job. You're only job would to not stand in his way.

Concentrate your efforts on yourself and kids.

SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace · 06/09/2018 20:05

The problem with men like this is that they don't want to do any of the work but like to feel hard done by when they aren't given everything on a plate.

My ex complained in court that I didn't keep him up to date with our Ds schooling (he lives in a different country but DS is 11 and perfectly capable of speaking to him himself. He just doesn't ask or really even care).

He got the hump because I never ask him if he wants school photos (because when I did he refused to pay for them and said they should come out of maintenance which he hardly ever pays) .

He also brought up the fact I hadn't told him when I was in a new relationship and the judge agreed that he had a right to know. It's ok for him to hop between 3 or 4 relationships though in the last 7 years, living together and introducing DS and never tell me?

You can't win with people like this!

Dollydimplespimple · 06/09/2018 20:09

I think that's why I'm feeling low, because he feels as though I should be making them call him as I'm the adult.
I just feel so conflicted and I don't want them to grow up feeling like I've stopped their relationship.

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Dollydimplespimple · 06/09/2018 20:18

snowwhite Yes I've had all of those things, I've been with two people since we split up, one of them had never even met my dcs and my current dp who I've been with for 3 years.

When he first started sleeping with the ow they used to take the dcs out and pretend she was their mum, which she took great delight in telling me they called her mummy.Angry
Regarding his new partner, I have no issue other than the fact he's lying about living with her and the fact he's been with her less than a year, introduced her to the dcs behind my back and told me I'm wrong for saying it was too soon.

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SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace · 07/09/2018 19:41

@Dollydimplespimple you can't make a child call someone. You can give them the option and support them but I refuse to make my DS call his father when I know he doesn't want to. And why should I make him when his father might call every 2 months if he's lucky! It's an absolute disgrace.

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