To ask for your views on this

[blackvelvetband]

www.ladbible.com/news/news-academic-slams-airline-for-referring-to-her-as-miss-and-not-doctor-20180906?c=1536225506426

Is this daft on her part? Or was she right to complain?

Right to complain imo. Doctor is an earned title.

When people are not medical doctors and still insist on being called "doctor" because they have a Ph.d when catching a flight it does seem pretentious however

Fair enough if you want to be called Dr if that is your title. However she's saying that the cabin crew did it on purpose after 'deciding it's a typo' which seems a of a leap - surely just an innocent mistake? Surely they were looking at her ticket to check her seat or something rather than her title? I'm called Miss but sometimes someone says Mrs - I assume it's a slip of the tongue and not a personal insult about being unmarried She then goes on to say it was sexism, which I don't agree with.Total mountain out of a molehill.

I agree with you both... yes it's earned but very pretentious.
I'm a BA HONS. I don't go round insisting that people use it.
Did you read the part about how she referred to the flight attendants as 'trolly dollys'

Her issue wasn't about insisting on using her title, more that their behaviour suggested they didn't believe she could possibly have that title. Which is insulting.

I think she needs to get a life.

PhD in Philosophy... Doctor sounds weird to me if you're not talking to a medic in uniform, but then I'm not used to it. I don't know, it just screams "I'm so self important!" and I wouldn't think to call someone anything other than a male or female term (sir/miss/mrs/m'lady I don't know) out of their area of work.

@blackvelvetband - she didn’t that was another doctor who responded to her tweet

@Namelessinseattle ah ok I didn't realise that.

The use of Dr is an academic title first and foremost. It's usage for medical professionals came after and many medical doctors (primarily surgeons) actually use the title Mr. A PhD is one of the highest academic qualifications and should be used if someone has put chosen to put it on their form surely?

I don't think I'd bother complaining but you'd be surprised how much this happens and it's annoying.

My friend is a doctor and once wrote a witness statement letter as a favour for a stranger signed Dr

Tbh I think she comes across as a pretentious snob in the article. I have a few friends who either have PhDs or are medical doctors (all female by the way!), I've never heard any of them ever kick off at being called Miss/Mrs instead of Dr. Politely correct someone if it really bothers you but I can't imagine being concerned at all about a random stranger, who you are unlikely to ever see again, getting your title wrong. Slagging them off on social media + accusing them of doing it on purpose because they are sexist is a weird reaction

*or Mrs!!

I think she is unreasonable and personally I would be embarrassed in her position.

If on a flight, you put Dr as your title then you would be expected to be called upon when someone has a heart attack or similar. In this case, if she was approached by cabin crew she would have to admit her title was a wank in this particular scenario and that she couldn’t assist given she is actually a Dr relative to knowledge pertaining to 14th century castles or whatever her area is.

When I was a registered/practising Dr (medical) I NEVER put this title on my booking. That way they can approach someone else first and would have to be desperate to make a general announcement and if no one else gets up then you have to. They must keep a list based on titles when booking as I have had friends and colleagues who have put this as a title on their booking approached by cabin crew when there are issues without a call out being made. So I definitely think she is being exceedingly unreasonable.

We do live in a mans world... but this kind of behaviour is crazy, whether it's coming from a man or a woman

Wrong to complain in the way she did. Seems to a be a bit of classism going on. Wonder if the pilot called her 'Miss' would she have posted about it.

If on a flight, you put Dr as your title then you would be expected to be called upon when someone has a heart attack or similar.

That's complete rubbish. That is not how they call on Doctors. Literally everyone knows that Dr can mean you have a PhD, you're a dentist etc. If there's an emergency they can out over the tannoy for a "doctor of medicine" (Happened recently on a flight I was on).

They certainly don't check tickets for your title and call on anyone who happens to use the title doctor!

If on a flight, you put Dr as your title then you would be expected to be called upon when someone has a heart attack or similar. In this case, if she was approached by cabin crew she would have to admit her title was a wank

What an incredibly ignorant remark - you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The title "Dr" was used as an academic title way before it was used by medical professionals and is continued to be used in that way. For many careers it would be vital for you to use your proper title or people would assume you don't have a PhD. They absolutely do not expect everyone with the title "doctor" to be able to help with a patient having a heart attack on a plane - that's ridiculous.

You seem to think since you're a doctor no one else has the right to use the title. Sorry that's total rubbish. I wouldn't have made a big deal of it if I was that woman but your comment is so ridiculous I couldn't help replying!

I wouldn't have made a big deal of it if I was that woman but your comment is so ridiculous I couldn't help replying!

Fine, next time someone has a heart attack on your flight feel free to jump in OR explain that your ‘Dr’ is a doctorate related to 14th century castles or whatever it is. I don’t think the ignorant crew will care to stick around to hear about your vital whatever.

In my experience they do approach people on the plane who have Dr as their title with the expectation they can assist. As I said it has happened to many of my friends and colleagues (fool be them). In the absence of people booking in with that title or on airlines where they don’t seem to look at titles (maybe they have had a lot of experience with Dr’s who give long winded explainations about 14th century castles instead of jumping in to help) they make an announcement.