Adhd??

[mrssparkle123]

Posting on here for traffic, please don't tell me I'm being unreasonable 🙂
Oh and well done to anyone who makes it to the end of the post.... it will be a challenge!

Hi everyone,

I went to the GP with concerns about my 4 year olds behaviour and I only got a third of the way down my list when he said he'd refer us to rule out adhd, he did say it could be that there's nothing wrong with my son but a paediatrician would be able to assess more extensively than he could.

The concerns I have are mainly 'normal' child behaviour (I think) but possibly not that at the frequency and extremity that my son displays them. My brother is dyspraxic and some of these things do overlap, so that's also a possibility. I would just like some opinions from anyone who knows about adhd...

1. random loud noises at random times
2. very loud
3. interrupts half way through a sentence
4. 1 way conversations
5. frequent emotional outbursts, screaming and crying up to 10 times a day
6. irrationally aggressive, violent behaviour towards younger sibling (for example if he says a word he doesn't like)
7. hates loud noises
8. hysterical laughter
9. impulsive behaviour (jumping up on the table randomly)
10. always fidgeting, moving, can't sit still
11. lack of awareness of his own body (accidentally kicking people when flailing his limbs around)
12. obsessed with food
13. obsessed with death
14. inappropriate with body parts
15. very physical - sitting on people, squeezing people, jumping on people and likes people to do it to him, will be laughing while doing it and if the other child is crying he doesn't seem to realise/he able to stop
16. will totally switch off when television is on and be absorbed by it
17. very short attention span (unless it's for television!!)
18. very obsessive with characters/colours
19. very routined
20. takes a long time to fall asleep at night (up to 2 hours)
21. irrational fears, eg terrified of cars in the distance when he's on the pavement holding my hand, or terrified of a dog in the distance
22. appears sorry for doing something wrong but doesn't seem to stop himself from doing it 5 minutes later
23. repeats a question over and over until he is satisfied with your answer even though you've been saying yes all along
24. low self esteem and says he can't do things without trying
25. gets distracted half way through a task
26. instructions have to be repeated over and over very clearly and concisely

Thank you to anyone who managed to get to the end of my post 😂😂

Sounds like my DD. Autism and adha. Boy is it tough. Keep your chin up

Yup, my son does/ has done a lot from your list. I suspected ADHD at age 3 but after assessment CAMHS told us was ASD but only traits, not full.diagnosis. Now, 3 years later (!) his neurologist ( he has epilepsy) picked up on behaviours, we saw psychiatry at the hosp and have just got ADHD diagnosis, medication and life is slowly getting better. Hang in there, don't take one person 's opinion as gospel, read everything you can and be kind to yourself. It's tough.

@Haworthia funnily enough I've been thinking a lot about myself and definitely tick more than a few boxes!

@sickmumma go to your gp!

@wildbhoysmama what a long road you've been down 🙁 glad life has finally got a little easier for you. I feel like I have a long way to go!

@Easylay @Gingerivy @Catgotyourbrain thank you all for your words of support. I am just hoping the referral doesn't take too long and I hope we actually get seen, I've heard that paediatricians appointments are hard to come by in my area and also that any kind of diagnosis or support is equally hard to come by. Feel like I'm hanging on by a thread at times!

Literally feel like I'm hanging on by a thread... I'm not sure these things can be blamed on adhd or autism, I just feel like written down it looks like terrible parenting, I've always had clear boundaries and consequences! But here goes, in the last week he;

Calmly said to my husband 'I'm going to punch you in the face'
Called the asda man Mrs Pom Pom and shut the door on him
Pulled his pants down and weed on the carpet and sofa

My friend says well he's just being naughty but I just don't feel like he is, but am I just making excuses for him?

Yesterday he had a 45 minute meltdown because he wanted to sit in a baby's pram and asked if he could have a baby pram when he's 2.. he seemed genuinely devastated and couldn't understand why he couldn't have it.

Hi tinkerbellindisguise, you should probably start your own thread about this.
FWIW, if your DS is two and displaying these behaviours, I’d say that’s pretty normal for a two year old, although a bit on the sophisticated side.
But do start your own thread!

@Allfednonedead oops this is my thread, I name changed and didn't realise it wouldn't show up as the OP still. How embarrassing.....!!! My younger son is 2, not the one I'm concerned about.

@Allfednonedead when I said 'when he's 2' I meant he was saying he wanted it when he's 2, as if he thinks he will one day be 2, when he's 4!! Does that make sense? Sorry it's been a long day.

@Haworthia @sickmumma @Catgotyourbrain @Easylay I am the OP I name changed and didn't realise it would not show up, #mumsnetfail

DS2 is 4 and will frequently argue that he will be 3 on his birthday. He doesn’t really get the concept of yesterday or tomorrow and will often use them interchangeably.

He’s punched a child in the face at school because he didn’t agree with what they said (which was nothing nasty btw), he will not sit and look at the letters worksheet he’s come home with. He actually fell off the sofa twice he was flinging himself about that much, and his eyes were all over, just not looking anywhere near the paper. I can’t tell if he genuinely doesn’t know what the letters are (he can only reliably identify one), or if he just doesn’t want to do the task, or just cannot focus long enough to do it. He’s being expected to start blending a few 3 letter words and even when I’m doing it for him he can’t grasp it. Won’t even repeat what I’m saying to him! I’ve no idea how we’re going to get him reading.

@ipswichwitch oh my goodness that reminds me of last month my son was repeatedly hitting my 2 year old really hard and angrily shouting at him because the 2 year old was saying something was red when it wasn't.....!

@ipswichwitch everything was yesterday here! And if I say 'yes later' he said 'today later?' And has to repeat it 500 times to clarify that I definitely mean today later, not now later or tomorrow later but today later 🤨

My son was diagnosed very fast at 5 apparently it was a cut and shut case. It obvious from three blocks away he has ADHD and was since a baby.

I remember he never slept as a baby (some parents say this but he really never. Nursery were always calling me in as he never napped. Even now at aged 11 on sleeping tablets 4 hours is ample and no catch up required.

Nursery couldn't cope or manage him.

He would do things like torment the dog, get bitten and blood drawn and then he'd go back and do it again without fear immediately afterwards.

Excluded from nursery, as well as any kids clubs on holiday.

Anyway my son was given medication he's now exceptionally bright and exceeding at school. Medication for my son was nothing short of a miracle. Very little issues now, before mediation my life was a nightmare. Now I have the opposite praise!

You can't give medication before six but be prepared for hardwork for all the catching up once medication kicks in.

I've changed my name back now do I show as the op again?!

@Neweternal that sounds awful 🙁 I can't imagine what you went through until you got a diagnosis but am so happy to hear you got the help you needed! Not convinced my son has adhd as he hasn't really had any major issues at preschool or clubs etc!

Neweternal our DS will do things like that then 5 minutes later go and do exactly the same damn thing again like he never learned from the last time.

tinker, we often have to go through these things repeatedly. To the point that I wind up confused as to whether it’s in fact today, tomorrow or yesterday!

@ipswichwitch and all the while he's getting very frustrated and a meltdown is brewing????

Oh yes mrssparkle. I can see the frustration building and I know the meltdown is coming. He really doesn’t seem to have a concept of time or what later means. In fact he almost went into meltdown yesterday because his brothers birthday is this week - he had his party at the weekend - and he was shouting about when his birthday is going to be. In 2 months I said. More shouting about why can’t it be tomorrow/yesterday (both are interchangeable to him). Then he blamed me, his dad, brother and even the cat for the fact it’s not his birthday and he stomped off to his room to throw stuff about. He wasn’t bothered about the fact his brother was getting presents or anything. Just that he couldn’t grasp why their birthdays were at different tones, and his might as well be 20years away for all the understanding he seems to have about time.

Ohhhh @ipswichwitch that's my son all over!! He gets really hung up on things like that, my younger son was going to start the preschool he went to when he was 2 and he was getting really upset saying but can I go there when I'm 2! He is always saying he doesn't want to grow up and be a big boy or an adult, he doesn't want me to have lots of birthdays because that means I'll die and he won't have a mummy! When we talk about before he was born he gets really upset and says but I didn't have a mummy then!

The clinical psych has been to observe him at school, and they’ve identified sensory issues which is triggering an OT referral. School are making a plan for him, and we’re waiting for the report from the psych.

He seems to be keeping a lid on his aggression at school, for now, but certainly getting the brunt of it at home. I’m feel utterly wrung out dealing with it, and he’s had another episode of lashing out at me tonight. I had to leave the room, and I’m struggling to cope with it all.

@ipswichwitch I'm really sorry to hear you're struggling 🙁 but it's great that the observation has possibly sparked some referrals. Was the psychologist a private one?

No it was an nhs one. Things seem to be moving quickly for us! The school have been pretty helpful too, and taking everything the psych has said on board, as well as what we’re telling them. How are things at your end?